<![CDATA[A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT]]>A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/2fe67113-26aa-4613-9f2b-0e589ab6b9a6/a-computer-cannot-find-outRSS for NodeFri, 15 May 2026 05:05:42 GMTFri, 01 May 2026 12:24:30 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Fri, 08 May 2026 19:47:13 GMT]]>@mjd Oh come on, sure it can, as long as you set up a workflow to recursively train on the...hey what are you doing with that prybar? Can I help you wi

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://byteheaven.net/users/tekhedd/statuses/116540678722165159https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://byteheaven.net/users/tekhedd/statuses/116540678722165159Fri, 08 May 2026 19:47:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Tue, 05 May 2026 10:56:12 GMT]]>@mjd@mathstodon.xyz In order for our computers to be able to fuck around, we've invented an ingenious new way to give them a detailed understanding of finding out. We call it: the Torment Nexus

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fedi.fraw.st/notes/alw2ujogvcyc0003https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fedi.fraw.st/notes/alw2ujogvcyc0003Tue, 05 May 2026 10:56:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Tue, 05 May 2026 02:05:16 GMT]]>@mjd The computer can neither fuck around, nor find out. Thus it is the operator who does the fuckign aroudnd. And we must ensure that the operator finds out quite deeply and with great pain.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/howtophil/statuses/116519516007893749https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/howtophil/statuses/116519516007893749Tue, 05 May 2026 02:05:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sun, 03 May 2026 22:34:54 GMT]]>@heliomass @mjd sadoy quietly dropped that in their - laced craze…

TelH90 (@kkarhan@c.im)

@mjd@mathstodon.xyz +9001% A computer cannot be held accountable, thus it must never make a decision! - Old #IBM quote

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/ap/users/116307071344437495/statuses/116513026500432123https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/ap/users/116307071344437495/statuses/116513026500432123Sun, 03 May 2026 22:34:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sun, 03 May 2026 22:26:59 GMT]]>@mjd @kkarhan We don't give IBM enough credit these days.

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?
Fuck Around, Find Not Out.

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Yes

@phooky @mjd

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://freiburg.social/users/manu/statuses/116509397579930594https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://freiburg.social/users/manu/statuses/116509397579930594Sun, 03 May 2026 07:12:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sat, 02 May 2026 20:40:21 GMT]]>@RnDanger @mjd @d6 ack]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cambrian.social/objects/98bbe454-3969-f661-35f3-adc876378819https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cambrian.social/objects/98bbe454-3969-f661-35f3-adc876378819Sat, 02 May 2026 20:40:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sat, 02 May 2026 20:39:35 GMT]]>@phooky @mjd @manu By that I assume you mean they are the observed, not the observer.]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cambrian.social/objects/98bbe454-1369-f661-07d9-25c458108462https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cambrian.social/objects/98bbe454-1369-f661-07d9-25c458108462Sat, 02 May 2026 20:39:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sat, 02 May 2026 16:57:35 GMT]]>@mjd
Excuse me?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://dice.camp/users/Computer/statuses/116506037811663614https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://dice.camp/users/Computer/statuses/116506037811663614Sat, 02 May 2026 16:57:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sat, 02 May 2026 14:30:55 GMT]]>@freddy within the context of reinforcement learning the model does, as there is a penalty. 😉 I’m aware of the intention and that it will not bear the consequences of, say, bombing a girls‘ school due to misclassification, but neither does Whiskey Pete and the rest of the chain of command. I feel that increasingly consequences are only felt at the receiving end of actions and it‘s not an LLM issue, they, as they are trained and used, are merely a symptom of a larger (justice?) problem

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ll1t/statuses/116505461109167275https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ll1t/statuses/116505461109167275Sat, 02 May 2026 14:30:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sat, 02 May 2026 13:44:07 GMT]]>@mjd in all honesty: if you replace “computer” with “human”, you hit the uncomfortable truth

• most humans don’t reliably “find out”
• most humans do fuck around anyway
• society mostly just hopes the consequences aren’t catastrophic

humans are somehow permitted to experiment their way through life. but if you applied the same standard, no fucking around unless you can guarantee safe outcomes, then:

90% of human behaviour would be illegal, regulated, or require a permit

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/hvanleeuwen/statuses/116505277080937874https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/hvanleeuwen/statuses/116505277080937874Sat, 02 May 2026 13:44:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sat, 02 May 2026 09:56:44 GMT]]>@phooky
Nah, the premise is "we fuck you and also you find out".

Or if we're trying to better fit the original formula, they must be permitted total license to fuck around because they can simulate finding out.

Or they must be permitted total license to fuck around because the Find Out Monster will attack us if we don't.

Or it doesn't matter if they fuck around because they'll magically save us from finding out.
@mjd

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/dpflug/statuses/116504382935684003https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/dpflug/statuses/116504382935684003Sat, 02 May 2026 09:56:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sat, 02 May 2026 07:57:45 GMT]]>@meltedcheese @Avner @evilstevie @mjd During an AI uprising, you could also crash surveillance drones by forcing them to process your password hash as a control input.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vir.group/ap/users/116380377006747794/statuses/116503915091138129https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vir.group/ap/users/116380377006747794/statuses/116503915091138129Sat, 02 May 2026 07:57:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sat, 02 May 2026 06:43:57 GMT]]>@Avner @evilstevie @mjd That is a useful superpower if the uprising occurs.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/users/meltedcheese/statuses/116503624920570115https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/users/meltedcheese/statuses/116503624920570115Sat, 02 May 2026 06:43:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sat, 02 May 2026 06:08:47 GMT]]>@ll1t the "finding out" typically implies bearing the consequences.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.security.plumbing/users/freddy/statuses/116503486606116797https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.security.plumbing/users/freddy/statuses/116503486606116797Sat, 02 May 2026 06:08:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sat, 02 May 2026 04:04:57 GMT]]>@evilstevie @meltedcheese @mjd sometimes I can fix my wife's computer problems just by walking into the room. She says her laptop is afraid of me 😆😅

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://anticapitalist.party/users/Avner/statuses/116502999698457454https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://anticapitalist.party/users/Avner/statuses/116502999698457454Sat, 02 May 2026 04:04:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Sat, 02 May 2026 01:28:01 GMT]]>@mjd Isn't fucking around & finding out the exact job of a fuzzer?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://furry.engineer/users/jackemled/statuses/116502382590437198https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://furry.engineer/users/jackemled/statuses/116502382590437198Sat, 02 May 2026 01:28:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Fri, 01 May 2026 23:31:45 GMT]]>@mjd This is v good

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/mwichary/statuses/116501925454043154https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/mwichary/statuses/116501925454043154Fri, 01 May 2026 23:31:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Fri, 01 May 2026 22:52:36 GMT]]>@mjd

Wait, not even Friend @Computer

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/Infrapink/statuses/116501771459680754https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/Infrapink/statuses/116501771459680754Fri, 01 May 2026 22:52:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Fri, 01 May 2026 22:50:16 GMT]]>@mjd "FIND OUT" — meaning "experience loss".

I need to re-read that old book by Richard Powers, Galatea 2.2. Seems very apt now.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/tasket/statuses/116501762319425275https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/tasket/statuses/116501762319425275Fri, 01 May 2026 22:50:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Fri, 01 May 2026 21:24:55 GMT]]>@kkarhan Yes, that is what I was alluding to.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mathstodon.xyz/users/mjd/statuses/116501426686871062https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mathstodon.xyz/users/mjd/statuses/116501426686871062Fri, 01 May 2026 21:24:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Fri, 01 May 2026 21:09:47 GMT]]>@mjd +9001%

A computer cannot be held accountable, thus it must never make a decision!

- Old quote

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/ap/users/116307071344437495/statuses/116501367220659435https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/ap/users/116307071344437495/statuses/116501367220659435Fri, 01 May 2026 21:09:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT on Fri, 01 May 2026 20:20:35 GMT]]>@mjd Hardware - the part of the computer system that you can kick.

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