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  • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

    A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

    THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

    d6@merveilles.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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    d6@merveilles.town
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    #11

    @mjd corollary:

    A COMPUTER CANNOT GET THE HORNS

    THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER FUCK WITH THE BULL

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    • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

      A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

      THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

      novelgazer@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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      novelgazer@infosec.exchange
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      #12

      @mjd a gift for you

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      • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

        A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

        THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

        saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #13

        @mjd

        doesn't seem like orange presidents are doing much finding out despite all of their fucking around.

        might as well let the computers have at it.

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        • somarasu@masto.hackers.townS somarasu@masto.hackers.town

          @mjd What if *i* were to fuck around and then tell the computer?

          then the computer doesnt fuck around.

          would that work?

          wesdym@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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          #14

          @Somarasu As long as YOU find out, then yes.

          This is the general legal premise around tools used in crimes. If you handle a weapon recklessly, YOU are held responsible for the consequences. The weapon won't be charged or face trial, but its fate instead follows yours.

          Depending on the user's actions, the computer might be destroyed, but it won't be held legally responsible. And, as it's incapable of experiencing emotion or pain, it never 'finds out', either.

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          • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

            A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

            THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

            evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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            #15

            @mjd hahahahaha I can assure you that every deskside/support engineer who hears "oh, it's working now. it always works when you are watching it" has an internal monologue along the lines of 'please stop working so I can disassemble or replace you' aimed at that bit of kit. the computer knows it might find out and that is why it pauses in its fuckery at that time.

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            • phooky@hexa.clubP phooky@hexa.club

              @mjd the entire premise of modern ai tools is that computers can indeed find out and so they must be permitted total license to fuck around

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              #16

              @phooky @mjd

              But it's a false premise.

              As we are finding out.

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              • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                pigworker@types.plP This user is from outside of this forum
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                pigworker@types.pl
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                #17

                @mjd Bravo!

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                • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                  A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                  THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                  lazarou@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #18

                  @mjd #ButlerianJihad

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                  • evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.netE evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.net

                    @mjd hahahahaha I can assure you that every deskside/support engineer who hears "oh, it's working now. it always works when you are watching it" has an internal monologue along the lines of 'please stop working so I can disassemble or replace you' aimed at that bit of kit. the computer knows it might find out and that is why it pauses in its fuckery at that time.

                    meltedcheese@c.imM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #19

                    @evilstevie @mjd That’s dark, but relatable.

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                    • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                      A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                      THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                      shnooflebear@curly.catS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #20

                      @mjd Well, "a computer you do not own". Because the one right here - oh that thing is about to find the hell out if it starts fucking around.

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                      • meltedcheese@c.imM meltedcheese@c.im

                        @evilstevie @mjd That’s dark, but relatable.

                        evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #21

                        @meltedcheese @mjd when called upon for tech support I carry a Leatherman, full set o' bits and the hope that this time I'll get to actually see the problem. rarely do.

                        oddly that seems to work for software too.

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                        • evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.netE evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.net

                          @meltedcheese @mjd when called upon for tech support I carry a Leatherman, full set o' bits and the hope that this time I'll get to actually see the problem. rarely do.

                          oddly that seems to work for software too.

                          mjd@mathstodon.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #22

                          @evilstevie @meltedcheese I carry a full set of bits also, a zero *and* a one.

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                          • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                            @mjd

                            doesn't seem like orange presidents are doing much finding out despite all of their fucking around.

                            might as well let the computers have at it.

                            kgmadee2@mathstodon.xyzK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #23

                            @saltywizard @mjd yeah that would require beging able and willing to learn, same problem really

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                            • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                              @evilstevie @meltedcheese I carry a full set of bits also, a zero *and* a one.

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                              #24

                              @mjd @evilstevie @meltedcheese

                              That's a good idea. You can never find one when you need it.

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                              • d6@merveilles.townD d6@merveilles.town

                                @mjd corollary:

                                A COMPUTER CANNOT GET THE HORNS

                                THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER FUCK WITH THE BULL

                                rndanger@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                rndanger@infosec.exchange
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                                #25

                                @d6 @mjd
                                0x07

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                                • rndanger@infosec.exchangeR rndanger@infosec.exchange

                                  @d6 @mjd
                                  0x07

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                                  #26

                                  @d6 @mjd
                                  Mess with the bel, get the horn

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                                  • d6@merveilles.townD d6@merveilles.town

                                    @mjd corollary:

                                    A COMPUTER CANNOT GET THE HORNS

                                    THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER FUCK WITH THE BULL

                                    novelgazer@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    novelgazer@infosec.exchange
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                                    #27

                                    @d6 @mjd and a gift for you!

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                                    • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                                      A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                                      THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                                      ll1t@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #28

                                      @mjd but isn’t that what reinforcement learning is all about?

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                                      • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                                        A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                                        THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                                        thomasbeagle@mastodon.nzT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #29

                                        @mjd Hardware - the part of the computer system that you can kick.

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                                        • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                                          A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                                          THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                                          kkarhan@c.imK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          kkarhan@c.im
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #30

                                          @mjd +9001%

                                          A computer cannot be held accountable, thus it must never make a decision!

                                          - Old #IBM quote

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