Replying to Uta Frith's views, one by one.
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Her view: Autism in women has gone too far.
Reply: Interesting. Has freedom in women gone too far, too?
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Her view: We must categorise autism into smaller subgroups.
Reply: Interesting also - a bit like how Hans Asperger did in Nazi Germany? I think, in this case, the purpose is to exclude a lot of people from the category "autism" and to divide the autistic community.
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Her view: Autism in women has gone too far.
Reply: Interesting. Has freedom in women gone too far, too?
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Her view: We must categorise autism into smaller subgroups.
Reply: Interesting also - a bit like how Hans Asperger did in Nazi Germany? I think, in this case, the purpose is to exclude a lot of people from the category "autism" and to divide the autistic community.
️@KatyElphinstone The reason why Heil Hans only studied boys, is because he was focused on their potential usefulness to society. The girls with the same traits were considered not useful to society because he thought they couldn’t fulfill the “role of a woman”. So sexism and eugenics set the stage for the whole history of Autism. That was my most shocking takeaway from Off the spectrum, by Gina Rippon
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Thank you for making me laugh
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As far as I can tell, that's what this thing is for -
No I hadn't seen this. It's excellent! I'll add this link to mine, as well.
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Right? Sorry as I know it's quite upsetting
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Right? Sorry as I know it's quite upsetting
@KatyElphinstone I never get over how people can shock me - which I guess says something good about me
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Yes!! In fact, I'm kind of wondering if it's something akin to a last ditch attempt
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@KatyElphinstone I never get over how people can shock me - which I guess says something good about me
️Ditto. I would actually not recommend listening to the podcast. It's just awful.
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Ditto. I would actually not recommend listening to the podcast. It's just awful.
@KatyElphinstone thanks - everything feels overwhelming these days. I appreciate the ways you keep us informed.
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Replying to Uta Frith's views, one by one.
With thanks to all the members of the autistic community who've informed me & inspired me to write this thread.
For those lucky not to know about her article in The Times, and various other related statements, links at the end.
CW: it's upsetting
A thread 🧵
#UtaFrith #Research #Autism #Autistic #ActuallyAutistic #Neurodivergent
@KatyElphinstone
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I find the "We need subtypes," idea a bit funny - we need more spectra
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Oops I missed that! Going back now....
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No....I think not. The link you sent was brilliant
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@KatyElphinstone thanks - everything feels overwhelming these days. I appreciate the ways you keep us informed.
Hm I think I should add to the beginning of the thread that is quite upsetting... A CW.
I probably should have done that to start with! Sorry about that
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Oops I missed that! Going back now....
Thank you for everything
I've also added a proper content warning at the beginning of the thread now.Thanks to the post on your page that told me how to do it
Apologies as I should've thought of that - after all, I found it upsetting
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Thank you for everything
I've also added a proper content warning at the beginning of the thread now.Thanks to the post on your page that told me how to do it
Apologies as I should've thought of that - after all, I found it upsetting
@KatyElphinstone @adelinej These "theory of mind" types seem to be fighting a long bitter retreat. But they seem to be fighting it in the right wing press, as the scientific world has moved on.
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The Times article: https://www.tes.com/magazine/teaching-learning/general/uta-frith-interview-autism-not-spectrum
Her podcast with Naomi Fisher: https://substack.com/@naomicfisher/note/p-189989936?r=ql236
@KatyElphinstone thank you for doing this point by point. I read her article and I was incensed!
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@KatyElphinstone thank you for doing this point by point. I read her article and I was incensed!
Wasn't it awful?!
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@KatyElphinstone @adelinej These "theory of mind" types seem to be fighting a long bitter retreat. But they seem to be fighting it in the right wing press, as the scientific world has moved on.
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Replying to Uta Frith's views, one by one.
With thanks to all the members of the autistic community who've informed me & inspired me to write this thread.
For those lucky not to know about her article in The Times, and various other related statements, links at the end.
CW: it's upsetting
A thread 🧵
#UtaFrith #Research #Autism #Autistic #ActuallyAutistic #Neurodivergent
Thank you for this. I was FURIOUS when I read her article. She clearly thinks that the lived experience is purely anecdotal.
I was only diagnosed 2 months ago and this sort of article will only get in the way when I tell certain family members.
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@KatyElphinstone @adelinej These "theory of mind" types seem to be fighting a long bitter retreat. But they seem to be fighting it in the right wing press, as the scientific world has moved on.
@SecondUniverse @KatyElphinstone @adelinej Why do these highly-educated academics always get Theory of Mind wrong? ToM is not the ability to read minds. It is the awareness that other individuals have their own thoughts and perceptions that will be different from your own, not the ability to know what those are.
