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  • katyelphinstone@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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    katyelphinstone@mas.to
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    #1

    Replying to Uta Frith's views, one by one.

    With thanks to all the members of the autistic community who've informed me & inspired me to write this thread.

    For those lucky not to know about her article in The Times, and various other related statements, links at the end.

    CW: it's upsetting 😟

    A thread 🧵

    #UtaFrith #Research #Autism #Autistic #ActuallyAutistic #Neurodivergent

    katyelphinstone@mas.toK punishmenthurts@autistics.lifeP petraphoenix@beige.partyP zigi_now9@autistics.lifeZ danimo@mastodon.socialD 6 Replies Last reply
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    • katyelphinstone@mas.toK katyelphinstone@mas.to

      Replying to Uta Frith's views, one by one.

      With thanks to all the members of the autistic community who've informed me & inspired me to write this thread.

      For those lucky not to know about her article in The Times, and various other related statements, links at the end.

      CW: it's upsetting 😟

      A thread 🧵

      #UtaFrith #Research #Autism #Autistic #ActuallyAutistic #Neurodivergent

      katyelphinstone@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      Her view: The concept of masking is “unscientific” because it’s unfalsifiable.

      Reply: So is the concept of pain. Should we treat that as irrelevant in medical or psychological contexts, as well?

      ⬇️

      #Autism #Research #Masking #UtaFrith

      katyelphinstone@mas.toK lizzard@social.tchncs.deL 2 Replies Last reply
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      • katyelphinstone@mas.toK katyelphinstone@mas.to

        Her view: The concept of masking is “unscientific” because it’s unfalsifiable.

        Reply: So is the concept of pain. Should we treat that as irrelevant in medical or psychological contexts, as well?

        ⬇️

        #Autism #Research #Masking #UtaFrith

        katyelphinstone@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        Her view: Autism in women has gone too far.

        Reply: Interesting. Has freedom in women gone too far, too?

        _________

        Her view: We must categorise autism into smaller subgroups.

        Reply: Interesting also - a bit like how Hans Asperger did in Nazi Germany? I think, in this case, the purpose is to exclude a lot of people from the category "autism" and to divide the autistic community.

        ⬇️

        #Autism #Research #Neurodiversity

        katyelphinstone@mas.toK endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE curiousmagpie@beige.partyC frantasaur@mastodon.ieF lizzard@social.tchncs.deL 6 Replies Last reply
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        • katyelphinstone@mas.toK katyelphinstone@mas.to

          Her view: Autism in women has gone too far.

          Reply: Interesting. Has freedom in women gone too far, too?

          _________

          Her view: We must categorise autism into smaller subgroups.

          Reply: Interesting also - a bit like how Hans Asperger did in Nazi Germany? I think, in this case, the purpose is to exclude a lot of people from the category "autism" and to divide the autistic community.

          ⬇️

          #Autism #Research #Neurodiversity

          katyelphinstone@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          Her view: We can't have this many autistic people because it’ll overload the system.

          Reply: This makes it plain that it's the people who serve the system, and not the other way around. Maybe society should be structured so that all people's needs are met, instead?

          ⬇️

          #UtaFrith #Research #Neurodiversity

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          • katyelphinstone@mas.toK katyelphinstone@mas.to

            Her view: We can't have this many autistic people because it’ll overload the system.

            Reply: This makes it plain that it's the people who serve the system, and not the other way around. Maybe society should be structured so that all people's needs are met, instead?

            ⬇️

            #UtaFrith #Research #Neurodiversity

            katyelphinstone@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            It almost seems she's been rolled out as part of the Old Guard, to try to turn the tide.

            It saddens me that this article, and campaign in general, will do a lot of harm to many autistic people, in making sure they aren't taken seriously and won't get the support they need.

            An excellent commentary from the author of Embrace Autism: https://resiliencymentalhealth.com/2026/03/10/the-autism-spectrum/
            (Thanks to @adelinej for sharing this with me)

            Links below.

            ⬇️

            #UtaFrith #Research #AutismResearch

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            • katyelphinstone@mas.toK katyelphinstone@mas.to

              Her view: Autism in women has gone too far.

              Reply: Interesting. Has freedom in women gone too far, too?

              _________

              Her view: We must categorise autism into smaller subgroups.

              Reply: Interesting also - a bit like how Hans Asperger did in Nazi Germany? I think, in this case, the purpose is to exclude a lot of people from the category "autism" and to divide the autistic community.

              ⬇️

              #Autism #Research #Neurodiversity

              endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @KatyElphinstone
              Like different frequent flyer levels?

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              • endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE endlessmason@hachyderm.io

                @KatyElphinstone
                Like different frequent flyer levels?

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                @EndlessMason

                Thank you for making me laugh 😂

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                • katyelphinstone@mas.toK katyelphinstone@mas.to

                  It almost seems she's been rolled out as part of the Old Guard, to try to turn the tide.

                  It saddens me that this article, and campaign in general, will do a lot of harm to many autistic people, in making sure they aren't taken seriously and won't get the support they need.

                  An excellent commentary from the author of Embrace Autism: https://resiliencymentalhealth.com/2026/03/10/the-autism-spectrum/
                  (Thanks to @adelinej for sharing this with me)

                  Links below.

                  ⬇️

                  #UtaFrith #Research #AutismResearch

                  katyelphinstone@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  The Times article: https://www.tes.com/magazine/teaching-learning/general/uta-frith-interview-autism-not-spectrum

                  Her podcast with Naomi Fisher: https://substack.com/@naomicfisher/note/p-189989936?r=ql236

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                  • katyelphinstone@mas.toK katyelphinstone@mas.to

                    Her view: Autism in women has gone too far.

                    Reply: Interesting. Has freedom in women gone too far, too?

                    _________

                    Her view: We must categorise autism into smaller subgroups.

                    Reply: Interesting also - a bit like how Hans Asperger did in Nazi Germany? I think, in this case, the purpose is to exclude a lot of people from the category "autism" and to divide the autistic community.

                    ⬇️

                    #Autism #Research #Neurodiversity

                    curiousmagpie@beige.partyC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @KatyElphinstone 😱

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                    • katyelphinstone@mas.toK katyelphinstone@mas.to

                      Her view: Autism in women has gone too far.

                      Reply: Interesting. Has freedom in women gone too far, too?

                      _________

                      Her view: We must categorise autism into smaller subgroups.

                      Reply: Interesting also - a bit like how Hans Asperger did in Nazi Germany? I think, in this case, the purpose is to exclude a lot of people from the category "autism" and to divide the autistic community.

                      ⬇️

                      #Autism #Research #Neurodiversity

                      frantasaur@mastodon.ieF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @KatyElphinstone The reason why Heil Hans only studied boys, is because he was focused on their potential usefulness to society. The girls with the same traits were considered not useful to society because he thought they couldn’t fulfill the “role of a woman”. So sexism and eugenics set the stage for the whole history of Autism. That was my most shocking takeaway from Off the spectrum, by Gina Rippon

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                      • katyelphinstone@mas.toK katyelphinstone@mas.to

                        @EndlessMason

                        Thank you for making me laugh 😂

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                        @KatyElphinstone
                        As far as I can tell, that's what this thing is for

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                          @adelinej

                          No I hadn't seen this. It's excellent! I'll add this link to mine, as well.

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                          • curiousmagpie@beige.partyC curiousmagpie@beige.party

                            @KatyElphinstone 😱

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                            @CuriousMagpie

                            Right? Sorry as I know it's quite upsetting 😢

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                            • katyelphinstone@mas.toK katyelphinstone@mas.to

                              @CuriousMagpie

                              Right? Sorry as I know it's quite upsetting 😢

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                              @KatyElphinstone I never get over how people can shock me - which I guess says something good about me 🤷🏻‍♀️

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                                @CynAq

                                Yes!! In fact, I'm kind of wondering if it's something akin to a last ditch attempt 🤷‍♀️

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                                • curiousmagpie@beige.partyC curiousmagpie@beige.party

                                  @KatyElphinstone I never get over how people can shock me - which I guess says something good about me 🤷🏻‍♀️

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                                  @CuriousMagpie

                                  Ditto. I would actually not recommend listening to the podcast. It's just awful.

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                                  • katyelphinstone@mas.toK katyelphinstone@mas.to

                                    @CuriousMagpie

                                    Ditto. I would actually not recommend listening to the podcast. It's just awful.

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                                    @KatyElphinstone thanks - everything feels overwhelming these days. I appreciate the ways you keep us informed.

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                                    • katyelphinstone@mas.toK katyelphinstone@mas.to

                                      Replying to Uta Frith's views, one by one.

                                      With thanks to all the members of the autistic community who've informed me & inspired me to write this thread.

                                      For those lucky not to know about her article in The Times, and various other related statements, links at the end.

                                      CW: it's upsetting 😟

                                      A thread 🧵

                                      #UtaFrith #Research #Autism #Autistic #ActuallyAutistic #Neurodivergent

                                      punishmenthurts@autistics.lifeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @KatyElphinstone
                                      .
                                      I find the "We need subtypes," idea a bit funny - we need more spectra 😜

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                                        @adelinej

                                        Oops I missed that! Going back now....

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                                          @adelinej

                                          No....I think not. The link you sent was brilliant ☺️

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