Replying to Uta Frith's views, one by one.
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Right? Sorry as I know it's quite upsetting
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Right? Sorry as I know it's quite upsetting
@KatyElphinstone I never get over how people can shock me - which I guess says something good about me
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Yes!! In fact, I'm kind of wondering if it's something akin to a last ditch attempt
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@KatyElphinstone I never get over how people can shock me - which I guess says something good about me
βοΈDitto. I would actually not recommend listening to the podcast. It's just awful.
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Ditto. I would actually not recommend listening to the podcast. It's just awful.
@KatyElphinstone thanks - everything feels overwhelming these days. I appreciate the ways you keep us informed.
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Replying to Uta Frith's views, one by one.
With thanks to all the members of the autistic community who've informed me & inspired me to write this thread.
For those lucky not to know about her article in The Times, and various other related statements, links at the end.
CW: it's upsetting
A thread π§΅
#UtaFrith #Research #Autism #Autistic #ActuallyAutistic #Neurodivergent
@KatyElphinstone
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I find the "We need subtypes," idea a bit funny - we need more spectra
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Oops I missed that! Going back now....
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No....I think not. The link you sent was brilliant
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@KatyElphinstone thanks - everything feels overwhelming these days. I appreciate the ways you keep us informed.
Hm I think I should add to the beginning of the thread that is quite upsetting... A CW.
I probably should have done that to start with! Sorry about that
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Oops I missed that! Going back now....
Thank you for everything
I've also added a proper content warning at the beginning of the thread now.Thanks to the post on your page that told me how to do it
Apologies as I should've thought of that - after all, I found it upsetting
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Thank you for everything
I've also added a proper content warning at the beginning of the thread now.Thanks to the post on your page that told me how to do it
Apologies as I should've thought of that - after all, I found it upsetting
@KatyElphinstone @adelinej These "theory of mind" types seem to be fighting a long bitter retreat. But they seem to be fighting it in the right wing press, as the scientific world has moved on.
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The Times article: https://www.tes.com/magazine/teaching-learning/general/uta-frith-interview-autism-not-spectrum
Her podcast with Naomi Fisher: https://substack.com/@naomicfisher/note/p-189989936?r=ql236
@KatyElphinstone thank you for doing this point by point. I read her article and I was incensed!
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@KatyElphinstone thank you for doing this point by point. I read her article and I was incensed!
Wasn't it awful?!
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@KatyElphinstone @adelinej These "theory of mind" types seem to be fighting a long bitter retreat. But they seem to be fighting it in the right wing press, as the scientific world has moved on.
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Replying to Uta Frith's views, one by one.
With thanks to all the members of the autistic community who've informed me & inspired me to write this thread.
For those lucky not to know about her article in The Times, and various other related statements, links at the end.
CW: it's upsetting
A thread π§΅
#UtaFrith #Research #Autism #Autistic #ActuallyAutistic #Neurodivergent
Thank you for this. I was FURIOUS when I read her article. She clearly thinks that the lived experience is purely anecdotal.
I was only diagnosed 2 months ago and this sort of article will only get in the way when I tell certain family members.
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@KatyElphinstone @adelinej These "theory of mind" types seem to be fighting a long bitter retreat. But they seem to be fighting it in the right wing press, as the scientific world has moved on.
@SecondUniverse @KatyElphinstone @adelinej Why do these highly-educated academics always get Theory of Mind wrong? ToM is not the ability to read minds. It is the awareness that other individuals have their own thoughts and perceptions that will be different from your own, not the ability to know what those are.
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@SecondUniverse @KatyElphinstone @adelinej Why do these highly-educated academics always get Theory of Mind wrong? ToM is not the ability to read minds. It is the awareness that other individuals have their own thoughts and perceptions that will be different from your own, not the ability to know what those are.
@joshsusser @KatyElphinstone @adelinej What they actually mean is the the autistic person does not have a mind. Sure they can think but they lack the essential "puzzle piece" that would make them human.
The Theory of Mind researcher doesn't have a theory of mind about their autistic research subjects.
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Replying to Uta Frith's views, one by one.
With thanks to all the members of the autistic community who've informed me & inspired me to write this thread.
For those lucky not to know about her article in The Times, and various other related statements, links at the end.
CW: it's upsetting
A thread π§΅
#UtaFrith #Research #Autism #Autistic #ActuallyAutistic #Neurodivergent
@KatyElphinstone Prof. Uta is a disease
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Her view: We can't have this many autistic people because itβll overload the system.
Reply: This makes it plain that it's the people who serve the system, and not the other way around. Maybe society should be structured so that all people's needs are met, instead?
οΈ@KatyElphinstone THIS.
Thank you
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Her view: We can't have this many autistic people because itβll overload the system.
Reply: This makes it plain that it's the people who serve the system, and not the other way around. Maybe society should be structured so that all people's needs are met, instead?
οΈ@KatyElphinstone If the population changes then the systems built to serve it must change too.
You don't change people to suit systems, you change systems to serve people. Always. Unconditionally.
How are so many people just absolutely wrong?
