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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 03 - 18 Feb - Ravières - Dijon - Culmont Chalindrey - Paris – Genève

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #8

    @pglux.bsky.social no. I refused to pay €20. So I’ll take a premium TER via Chaumont instead!

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #9

      @pglux.bsky.social Right. But Coradia Liner is ok in 1st class.

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        My train after this one is listed as a compulsory reservation TER

        It has a 47 mins total trip, Dijon to Culmont Chalindrey with 1 stop en route

        I’m semi sure this is a data error and it’s not comp res. But we’ll see

        jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #10

        SNCF Connect can’t help me work out if it’s compulsory reservation. By now I think it just assumes everyone thinks everything is.

        jon@gruene.socialJ moritzkraehe@zug.networkM bovine3dom@masto.aiB 3 Replies Last reply
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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          SNCF Connect can’t help me work out if it’s compulsory reservation. By now I think it just assumes everyone thinks everything is.

          jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          jon@gruene.social
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          #11

          Also Dijon - Culmont-Chalindrey train times 🫣

          Basically un-useable

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #12

            @pglux.bsky.social no. That guy is doing works. He’s not normally there. But yes, they installed new lighting. But the underpass still has a drainage problem and most of the platforms are full of holes.

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Also Dijon - Culmont-Chalindrey train times 🫣

              Basically un-useable

              jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #13

              🤯

              So @12train makes it clear

              The train is COMPULSORY RESERVATION

              AAAAGGGGHHHHH

              It’s a regional train for a 47 minute trip

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                🤯

                So @12train makes it clear

                The train is COMPULSORY RESERVATION

                AAAAGGGGHHHHH

                It’s a regional train for a 47 minute trip

                jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #14

                Also how Dijon shows in @12train 🤬

                If TER Fluo (ie Grand Est) operates the train: Dijon Ville

                If TER Mobigo (ie Bourgogne Franche Comté) operates it: Dijon

                It’s the same station

                jon@gruene.socialJ smsm1@mastodon.greenS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS 3 Replies Last reply
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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Also how Dijon shows in @12train 🤬

                  If TER Fluo (ie Grand Est) operates the train: Dijon Ville

                  If TER Mobigo (ie Bourgogne Franche Comté) operates it: Dijon

                  It’s the same station

                  jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #15

                  And discovering this sort of total ridiculous shit is why there’s no substitute for going to the places and testing the trains on #CrossBorderRail

                  You only *get this* once you’ve experienced it

                  smveerman@zug.networkS bastro@maly.ioB jon@gruene.socialJ phrawzty@hachyderm.ioP onterof@sueden.socialO 5 Replies Last reply
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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    SNCF Connect can’t help me work out if it’s compulsory reservation. By now I think it just assumes everyone thinks everything is.

                    moritzkraehe@zug.networkM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #16

                    @jon "You can board up to 2 minutes before departure" -- on a regional train!?

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      And discovering this sort of total ridiculous shit is why there’s no substitute for going to the places and testing the trains on #CrossBorderRail

                      You only *get this* once you’ve experienced it

                      smveerman@zug.networkS This user is from outside of this forum
                      smveerman@zug.networkS This user is from outside of this forum
                      smveerman@zug.network
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                      #17

                      @jon It's a data failure. The 8:19 from Dijon to Culmont-Chalindrey is not reservation required, other trains from Culmont-Chalindrey are for the section Nogent-sur-Seine - Paris.

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        And discovering this sort of total ridiculous shit is why there’s no substitute for going to the places and testing the trains on #CrossBorderRail

                        You only *get this* once you’ve experienced it

                        bastro@maly.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #18

                        @jon I,m reading about this COMPULSORY RESERVATION. What is the idea behind this? Making more money or protecting something? I really don't understand this. Why not on all trains if it is important. Why this bullying off the travelers?

                        jon@gruene.socialJ julienw@pouet.chapril.orgJ 2 Replies Last reply
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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          Also how Dijon shows in @12train 🤬

                          If TER Fluo (ie Grand Est) operates the train: Dijon Ville

                          If TER Mobigo (ie Bourgogne Franche Comté) operates it: Dijon

                          It’s the same station

                          smsm1@mastodon.greenS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          smsm1@mastodon.green
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                          #19

                          @jon @12train get the same with Edinburgh where some systems say "Edinburgh", others "Edinburgh (Waverley)", and I'm sure I've seen "Edinburgh (City Centre)" all refer to the same station. In my quick look at some apps it looks like the city centre variant isn't showing any more, but not all include the Waverley.

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                          • smsm1@mastodon.greenS smsm1@mastodon.green

                            @jon @12train get the same with Edinburgh where some systems say "Edinburgh", others "Edinburgh (Waverley)", and I'm sure I've seen "Edinburgh (City Centre)" all refer to the same station. In my quick look at some apps it looks like the city centre variant isn't showing any more, but not all include the Waverley.

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                            #20

                            @jon @12train oh, the issue is with Djon is within the same app and journey plan results list. Ok that's a lot worse that the Edinburgh issue which is at least consistent within each app.

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                            • smveerman@zug.networkS smveerman@zug.network

                              @jon It's a data failure. The 8:19 from Dijon to Culmont-Chalindrey is not reservation required, other trains from Culmont-Chalindrey are for the section Nogent-sur-Seine - Paris.

                              jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @smveerman I will ask the train manager. I assume it’s because it’s a Coradia Liner and a train number in the series of Paris Est - Belfort. It’s not only an Interrail or Merits data problem.

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                              • bastro@maly.ioB bastro@maly.io

                                @jon I,m reading about this COMPULSORY RESERVATION. What is the idea behind this? Making more money or protecting something? I really don't understand this. Why not on all trains if it is important. Why this bullying off the travelers?

                                jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                jon@gruene.social
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                                #22

                                @bastro the railway would work better if fewer passengers took it.

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                                • smveerman@zug.networkS smveerman@zug.network

                                  @jon It's a data failure. The 8:19 from Dijon to Culmont-Chalindrey is not reservation required, other trains from Culmont-Chalindrey are for the section Nogent-sur-Seine - Paris.

                                  smveerman@zug.networkS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #23

                                  @jon See the schedule, that has a note only for trains from/to Paris that a reservation is needed: https://ter-fiches-horaires.sncf.fr/publish/C04_Mulhouse%20Dijon%20Troyes%20Paris-Est_HIVER_semaine_(01022026au28022026)V3.pdf

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                                  • smveerman@zug.networkS smveerman@zug.network

                                    @jon See the schedule, that has a note only for trains from/to Paris that a reservation is needed: https://ter-fiches-horaires.sncf.fr/publish/C04_Mulhouse%20Dijon%20Troyes%20Paris-Est_HIVER_semaine_(01022026au28022026)V3.pdf

                                    jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    jon@gruene.social
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                                    #24

                                    @smveerman yes. But why if I book a ticket for it, is it asking me to choose a seat? Maybe I’m allowed to not do this, and I didn’t go through with the booking (obviously). At the very least it’s not well done.

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      @smveerman yes. But why if I book a ticket for it, is it asking me to choose a seat? Maybe I’m allowed to not do this, and I didn’t go through with the booking (obviously). At the very least it’s not well done.

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                                      #25

                                      @jon The combination of train number and having no way to make a train only part of the way reservation only are reasons I guess. It's also a solution to a non-existing problem.

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                                      • bastro@maly.ioB bastro@maly.io

                                        @jon I,m reading about this COMPULSORY RESERVATION. What is the idea behind this? Making more money or protecting something? I really don't understand this. Why not on all trains if it is important. Why this bullying off the travelers?

                                        julienw@pouet.chapril.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                        julienw@pouet.chapril.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                        julienw@pouet.chapril.org
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                                        @bastro
                                        I think she basic idea is to have everybody bring able to sit down?

                                        @jon

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                                        • julienw@pouet.chapril.orgJ julienw@pouet.chapril.org

                                          @bastro
                                          I think she basic idea is to have everybody bring able to sit down?

                                          @jon

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                                          jon@gruene.social
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                                          #27

                                          @julienw @bastro it’s a REGIONAL TRAIN. You might rather get to your destination and stand. Better that than not getting there at all!

                                          Ah sorry. I forgot. Who’d RELY on a regional train in France?

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