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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 03 - 18 Feb - Ravières - Dijon - Culmont Chalindrey - Paris – Genève

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    My train after this one is listed as a compulsory reservation TER

    It has a 47 mins total trip, Dijon to Culmont Chalindrey with 1 stop en route

    I’m semi sure this is a data error and it’s not comp res. But we’ll see

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    #10

    SNCF Connect can’t help me work out if it’s compulsory reservation. By now I think it just assumes everyone thinks everything is.

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      SNCF Connect can’t help me work out if it’s compulsory reservation. By now I think it just assumes everyone thinks everything is.

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      #11

      Also Dijon - Culmont-Chalindrey train times 🫣

      Basically un-useable

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        #12

        @pglux.bsky.social no. That guy is doing works. He’s not normally there. But yes, they installed new lighting. But the underpass still has a drainage problem and most of the platforms are full of holes.

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Also Dijon - Culmont-Chalindrey train times 🫣

          Basically un-useable

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          🤯

          So @12train makes it clear

          The train is COMPULSORY RESERVATION

          AAAAGGGGHHHHH

          It’s a regional train for a 47 minute trip

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            🤯

            So @12train makes it clear

            The train is COMPULSORY RESERVATION

            AAAAGGGGHHHHH

            It’s a regional train for a 47 minute trip

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            #14

            Also how Dijon shows in @12train 🤬

            If TER Fluo (ie Grand Est) operates the train: Dijon Ville

            If TER Mobigo (ie Bourgogne Franche Comté) operates it: Dijon

            It’s the same station

            jon@gruene.socialJ smsm1@mastodon.greenS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS 3 Replies Last reply
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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Also how Dijon shows in @12train 🤬

              If TER Fluo (ie Grand Est) operates the train: Dijon Ville

              If TER Mobigo (ie Bourgogne Franche Comté) operates it: Dijon

              It’s the same station

              jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              And discovering this sort of total ridiculous shit is why there’s no substitute for going to the places and testing the trains on #CrossBorderRail

              You only *get this* once you’ve experienced it

              smveerman@zug.networkS bastro@maly.ioB jon@gruene.socialJ phrawzty@hachyderm.ioP onterof@sueden.socialO 5 Replies Last reply
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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                SNCF Connect can’t help me work out if it’s compulsory reservation. By now I think it just assumes everyone thinks everything is.

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                @jon "You can board up to 2 minutes before departure" -- on a regional train!?

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  And discovering this sort of total ridiculous shit is why there’s no substitute for going to the places and testing the trains on #CrossBorderRail

                  You only *get this* once you’ve experienced it

                  smveerman@zug.networkS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #17

                  @jon It's a data failure. The 8:19 from Dijon to Culmont-Chalindrey is not reservation required, other trains from Culmont-Chalindrey are for the section Nogent-sur-Seine - Paris.

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    And discovering this sort of total ridiculous shit is why there’s no substitute for going to the places and testing the trains on #CrossBorderRail

                    You only *get this* once you’ve experienced it

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                    @jon I,m reading about this COMPULSORY RESERVATION. What is the idea behind this? Making more money or protecting something? I really don't understand this. Why not on all trains if it is important. Why this bullying off the travelers?

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Also how Dijon shows in @12train 🤬

                      If TER Fluo (ie Grand Est) operates the train: Dijon Ville

                      If TER Mobigo (ie Bourgogne Franche Comté) operates it: Dijon

                      It’s the same station

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                      @jon @12train get the same with Edinburgh where some systems say "Edinburgh", others "Edinburgh (Waverley)", and I'm sure I've seen "Edinburgh (City Centre)" all refer to the same station. In my quick look at some apps it looks like the city centre variant isn't showing any more, but not all include the Waverley.

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                      • smsm1@mastodon.greenS smsm1@mastodon.green

                        @jon @12train get the same with Edinburgh where some systems say "Edinburgh", others "Edinburgh (Waverley)", and I'm sure I've seen "Edinburgh (City Centre)" all refer to the same station. In my quick look at some apps it looks like the city centre variant isn't showing any more, but not all include the Waverley.

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                        #20

                        @jon @12train oh, the issue is with Djon is within the same app and journey plan results list. Ok that's a lot worse that the Edinburgh issue which is at least consistent within each app.

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                        • smveerman@zug.networkS smveerman@zug.network

                          @jon It's a data failure. The 8:19 from Dijon to Culmont-Chalindrey is not reservation required, other trains from Culmont-Chalindrey are for the section Nogent-sur-Seine - Paris.

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                          @smveerman I will ask the train manager. I assume it’s because it’s a Coradia Liner and a train number in the series of Paris Est - Belfort. It’s not only an Interrail or Merits data problem.

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                          • bastro@maly.ioB bastro@maly.io

                            @jon I,m reading about this COMPULSORY RESERVATION. What is the idea behind this? Making more money or protecting something? I really don't understand this. Why not on all trains if it is important. Why this bullying off the travelers?

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                            @bastro the railway would work better if fewer passengers took it.

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                            • smveerman@zug.networkS smveerman@zug.network

                              @jon It's a data failure. The 8:19 from Dijon to Culmont-Chalindrey is not reservation required, other trains from Culmont-Chalindrey are for the section Nogent-sur-Seine - Paris.

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                              #23

                              @jon See the schedule, that has a note only for trains from/to Paris that a reservation is needed: https://ter-fiches-horaires.sncf.fr/publish/C04_Mulhouse%20Dijon%20Troyes%20Paris-Est_HIVER_semaine_(01022026au28022026)V3.pdf

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                              • smveerman@zug.networkS smveerman@zug.network

                                @jon See the schedule, that has a note only for trains from/to Paris that a reservation is needed: https://ter-fiches-horaires.sncf.fr/publish/C04_Mulhouse%20Dijon%20Troyes%20Paris-Est_HIVER_semaine_(01022026au28022026)V3.pdf

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                                @smveerman yes. But why if I book a ticket for it, is it asking me to choose a seat? Maybe I’m allowed to not do this, and I didn’t go through with the booking (obviously). At the very least it’s not well done.

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  @smveerman yes. But why if I book a ticket for it, is it asking me to choose a seat? Maybe I’m allowed to not do this, and I didn’t go through with the booking (obviously). At the very least it’s not well done.

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                                  @jon The combination of train number and having no way to make a train only part of the way reservation only are reasons I guess. It's also a solution to a non-existing problem.

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                                  • bastro@maly.ioB bastro@maly.io

                                    @jon I,m reading about this COMPULSORY RESERVATION. What is the idea behind this? Making more money or protecting something? I really don't understand this. Why not on all trains if it is important. Why this bullying off the travelers?

                                    julienw@pouet.chapril.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #26

                                    @bastro
                                    I think she basic idea is to have everybody bring able to sit down?

                                    @jon

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                                    • julienw@pouet.chapril.orgJ julienw@pouet.chapril.org

                                      @bastro
                                      I think she basic idea is to have everybody bring able to sit down?

                                      @jon

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                                      @julienw @bastro it’s a REGIONAL TRAIN. You might rather get to your destination and stand. Better that than not getting there at all!

                                      Ah sorry. I forgot. Who’d RELY on a regional train in France?

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        @julienw @bastro it’s a REGIONAL TRAIN. You might rather get to your destination and stand. Better that than not getting there at all!

                                        Ah sorry. I forgot. Who’d RELY on a regional train in France?

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                                        #28

                                        @jon
                                        Yeah I know
                                        @bastro

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          And discovering this sort of total ridiculous shit is why there’s no substitute for going to the places and testing the trains on #CrossBorderRail

                                          You only *get this* once you’ve experienced it

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                                          #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 6 of 80
                                          TER 39593
                                          08:19 Dijon Ville - Culmont Chalindrey 09:06
                                          SNCF for TER Mobigo, TER Fluo Grand Est

                                          Train type: Alstom Coradia Bi-mode MU, 6 short carriages
                                          ⚡️ (1.5kV dc, 25kV ac)
                                          🚲: ✅
                                          🦽: ✅ (step free)
                                          🛜: ⛔️
                                          🍽️: ⛔️
                                          🧳: 🙂
                                          🧽: 🙂
                                          Interrail: 🙂 (accepted) or 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs €1,70) - I don’t know yet!

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