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  • aardrian@toot.cafeA aardrian@toot.cafe

    [6/5]

    I needed to know.

    https://vpatcode-worker.webcraft-stephanie-fenton.workers.dev/proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fadrianroselli.com%2F

    It asserts one issue and a fix, and I think it’s wrong. Not just the issue but also the SC.

    Doing the math, there are 14 issues remaining. Though, maybe those are the “13 human-in-the-loop recommended”?

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    [7/5]

    I made archive pages of the Firewall product:
    • https://web.archive.org/web/20260501233848/https://accessibilityfirewall.com/
    • https://archive.is/wcHGD

    And Webcraft itself:
    • https://web.archive.org/web/20260501234507/https://webcraft.inc/
    • https://archive.is/KkZvg

    These may be useful in future discovery during false advertising litigation. Because they make bold claims (in order):

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    • aardrian@toot.cafeA aardrian@toot.cafe

      [7/5]

      I made archive pages of the Firewall product:
      • https://web.archive.org/web/20260501233848/https://accessibilityfirewall.com/
      • https://archive.is/wcHGD

      And Webcraft itself:
      • https://web.archive.org/web/20260501234507/https://webcraft.inc/
      • https://archive.is/KkZvg

      These may be useful in future discovery during false advertising litigation. Because they make bold claims (in order):

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      [8/5]

      Firewall claims:
      • “Your website is remediated before it reaches the browser.”
      • “The user receives mathematically compliant HTML. Fully accessible…”

      Webcraft claims:
      • “…instantly ensuring compliance…”
      • “Our full remediation engine processes all 86 WCAG 2.2 criteria…”
      • “Certified accessibility experts review the results to ensure legal defensibility.”
      • “Our engine patches them at the edge, ensuring compliance and integrity.”
      • “…enforcing Section 508 compliance…”

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      • aardrian@toot.cafeA aardrian@toot.cafe

        [8/5]

        Firewall claims:
        • “Your website is remediated before it reaches the browser.”
        • “The user receives mathematically compliant HTML. Fully accessible…”

        Webcraft claims:
        • “…instantly ensuring compliance…”
        • “Our full remediation engine processes all 86 WCAG 2.2 criteria…”
        • “Certified accessibility experts review the results to ensure legal defensibility.”
        • “Our engine patches them at the edge, ensuring compliance and integrity.”
        • “…enforcing Section 508 compliance…”

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        [9/5]

        Tired: #overlay companies lying about using ‘AI’ for WCAG remediation (accessiBe’s FTC fine, my UserWay tests, etc.).

        Wired: ‘AI’ companies lying about not being overlays (sans opt-out).

        No accessibility knowledge needed to evaluate these. Basic HTML and reading skills uncovered this.

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        • aardrian@toot.cafeA aardrian@toot.cafe

          [8/5]

          Firewall claims:
          • “Your website is remediated before it reaches the browser.”
          • “The user receives mathematically compliant HTML. Fully accessible…”

          Webcraft claims:
          • “…instantly ensuring compliance…”
          • “Our full remediation engine processes all 86 WCAG 2.2 criteria…”
          • “Certified accessibility experts review the results to ensure legal defensibility.”
          • “Our engine patches them at the edge, ensuring compliance and integrity.”
          • “…enforcing Section 508 compliance…”

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          #10

          @aardrian ..."mathematically compliant HTML"? WTF is that...

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          • joedolson@toot.ioJ joedolson@toot.io

            @aardrian ..."mathematically compliant HTML"? WTF is that...

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            @joedolson Well, it’s just, like… numbers and, sums of elements and… like… how it all adds up to, um, compliance.

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            • aardrian@toot.cafeA aardrian@toot.cafe

              @joedolson Well, it’s just, like… numbers and, sums of elements and… like… how it all adds up to, um, compliance.

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              @aardrian Thank you for the sincere and thorough explanation... 😀

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              • aardrian@toot.cafeA aardrian@toot.cafe

                [2/5]

                When I visited the ‘remediated’ version of the firewall product in two browsers, I got a different number of auto-fixed items.

                Maybe you’ll get a different count?
                https://vpatcode-worker.webcraft-stephanie-fenton.workers.dev/proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Faccessibilityfirewall.com%2F

                Pointing a tool at the vendor’s site is often a good test.

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                @aardrian I got 5 auto-fixes in the in app browser of Ivory and 3 in Safari directly, which is odd considering the in app browser is just a webview with the safari engine.

                Seems a bit… random?

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                • aardrian@toot.cafeA aardrian@toot.cafe

                  [1/5]

                  I heard about https://AccessibilityFirewall.com/, promising “No code changes. No overlay. No JavaScript.” It uses “edge” in the same way the Overlay Community Group does.

                  Red flag emoji.

                  So I ran it through its own “Live Remediation Engine”:
                  https://webcraft.inc/#audit-section

                  Hmmm…

                  #accessibility #a11y

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                  @aardrian I've tried with ryanair.com, it's funny because it says "95 %" and the "fixed" version is a completely blank page. Great fix! 👏🏼😂

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                  • stephanie@mastodon.socialS stephanie@mastodon.social

                    @aardrian I got 5 auto-fixes in the in app browser of Ivory and 3 in Safari directly, which is odd considering the in app browser is just a webview with the safari engine.

                    Seems a bit… random?

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                    @Stephanie Yep, feels random and from an arbitrary and opaque set of rules.

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                    • tinitun@mstdn.socialT tinitun@mstdn.social

                      @aardrian I've tried with ryanair.com, it's funny because it says "95 %" and the "fixed" version is a completely blank page. Great fix! 👏🏼😂

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                      @tinitun Having flown Ryanair, that seems to fit.

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                      • aardrian@toot.cafeA aardrian@toot.cafe

                        [9/5]

                        Tired: #overlay companies lying about using ‘AI’ for WCAG remediation (accessiBe’s FTC fine, my UserWay tests, etc.).

                        Wired: ‘AI’ companies lying about not being overlays (sans opt-out).

                        No accessibility knowledge needed to evaluate these. Basic HTML and reading skills uncovered this.

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                        [10/5]

                        First post in thread, I found Accessibility Firewall gave itself a 73% ‘score’.

                        Ashlee checked under 20 minutes later and it jumped to 78%:
                        https://bsky.app/profile/ashleemboyer.com/post/3mkt2ehq24k24

                        Kevin a couple hours later and it was 83%:
                        https://bsky.app/profile/kevinpowell.co/post/3mktc6hyqgs2e

                        Either they’re live-fixing or the scores are bunk.

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                        • aardrian@toot.cafeA aardrian@toot.cafe

                          [10/5]

                          First post in thread, I found Accessibility Firewall gave itself a 73% ‘score’.

                          Ashlee checked under 20 minutes later and it jumped to 78%:
                          https://bsky.app/profile/ashleemboyer.com/post/3mkt2ehq24k24

                          Kevin a couple hours later and it was 83%:
                          https://bsky.app/profile/kevinpowell.co/post/3mktc6hyqgs2e

                          Either they’re live-fixing or the scores are bunk.

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                          [11/5]

                          Using Vercel, Ashlee found the Accessibility Firewall introduced *more* errors:
                          https://bsky.app/profile/ashleemboyer.com/post/3mkvg3kfjq22g

                          Curious, I checked.

                          When faced with the simplest error (a disclosure widget), its solution was to remove it — and site navigation for all mobile / narrow viewport users.

                          Cool.

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                          • aardrian@toot.cafeA aardrian@toot.cafe

                            [11/5]

                            Using Vercel, Ashlee found the Accessibility Firewall introduced *more* errors:
                            https://bsky.app/profile/ashleemboyer.com/post/3mkvg3kfjq22g

                            Curious, I checked.

                            When faced with the simplest error (a disclosure widget), its solution was to remove it — and site navigation for all mobile / narrow viewport users.

                            Cool.

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                            [12/5]

                            Accessibility Firewall ‘fixed’ one of the 133 issues axe DevTools identified on Vercel’s home page. By adding a useless `aria-label` to the logo link.

                            Meanwhile, it introduced more WCAG issues, while also removing subnav, login, sign in, “Ask AI”, etc.

                            Impressive.

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                            • aardrian@toot.cafeA aardrian@toot.cafe

                              [12/5]

                              Accessibility Firewall ‘fixed’ one of the 133 issues axe DevTools identified on Vercel’s home page. By adding a useless `aria-label` to the logo link.

                              Meanwhile, it introduced more WCAG issues, while also removing subnav, login, sign in, “Ask AI”, etc.

                              Impressive.

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                              [13/13]

                              At least with overlays, I have some agency. I can turn them off, block the script. I can see what was made worse.

                              With Accessibility Firewall, it seems I cannot (based on its marketing). Cannot stop it, cannot see what changed, cannot undo it.

                              Overlay claims with worse outcomes.

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                              • aardrian@toot.cafeA aardrian@toot.cafe

                                [5/5]

                                So the numbers feel made up, the remediation feels sketchy, the language feels off, and I feel this might be less than advertised.

                                But at least the Terms & Privacy policies are brief enough and offer sufficient recourse to make me walk away.

                                • https://webcraft.inc/terms
                                • https://webcraft.inc/privacy

                                🤷

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                                #21

                                @aardrian ha, ha, ha. They don’t have a lawyer.

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