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  3. first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

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  • artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gayA artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gay

    @whitequark very important pad

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    @artemist @whitequark 🅱️IP

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    • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

      @artemist @whitequark 🅱️IP

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      @ldcd @whitequark 🆎ℹ️🅿️

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        complete success

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        @whitequark What are you using to dump the chips?

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        • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

          @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg huh I thought microchip ECs were mostly arm based

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          @azonenberg @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg
          When Microchip first produced a PIC32 it was built around MIPS (I was at HI-TECH Software at the time - we had a compiler targeting it). Later they acquired Atmel and renamed the (ARM-based) SAM series "PIC32..."

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          • mlp@defcon.socialM mlp@defcon.social

            @azonenberg @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg
            When Microchip first produced a PIC32 it was built around MIPS (I was at HI-TECH Software at the time - we had a compiler targeting it). Later they acquired Atmel and renamed the (ARM-based) SAM series "PIC32..."

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            @mlp @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg yes I'm talking about their embedded controllers for laptops etc not general purposes MCUs.

            Real PIC32 is mips, not the rebranded SAMs sold under the pic32 brand

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            • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

              @whitequark What are you using to dump the chips?

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              @drwho https://glasgow-embedded.org/

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                @drwho https://glasgow-embedded.org/

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                @whitequark Cool! Thank you.

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  alright let's dump the ARC chip now

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                  @whitequark 🤘

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic. the injecton molding remains impeccable, at least for this specific piece (I know about their recent QC issues elsewhere)

                    it's hard for me to look at the positively microscopic (I am literally using a microscope to look at it) "Li-Ion" lettering and think of anything but "showing off!"

                    (treehouse doesn't let me attach the full size images, you can grab them here: front, side)

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                    @whitequark but the most important question remains unanswered: Can you make it play actual star wars sounds instead of the unintelligible gibberish now? 😄

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      alright let's dump the ARC chip now

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                      not my best work but it should do the trick

                      feat. comically big q-tip

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        not my best work but it should do the trick

                        feat. comically big q-tip

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                        @whitequark oh lol I thought it was a cat’s paw

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                        • dev@discuss.systemsD dev@discuss.systems

                          @whitequark oh lol I thought it was a cat’s paw

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                          @dev that would be a really small cat

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                          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                            not my best work but it should do the trick

                            feat. comically big q-tip

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                            unfortunately, i could not access JTAG. i think i ran out of time i have for playing with this board, good luck @ everyone else

                            shout out to:
                            https://github.com/nanash1/smart_brick
                            https://codeberg.org/shelfofsheelfs/SMART-Brick
                            for doing good work!

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                            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                              unfortunately, i could not access JTAG. i think i ran out of time i have for playing with this board, good luck @ everyone else

                              shout out to:
                              https://github.com/nanash1/smart_brick
                              https://codeberg.org/shelfofsheelfs/SMART-Brick
                              for doing good work!

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                              after reading the datasheet a bit more carefully, i know why i couldn't: the JTAG port is simply not exposed unless the firmware configures the pin mux that way. i'd have to dump the firmware in some other way

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                              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                after reading the datasheet a bit more carefully, i know why i couldn't: the JTAG port is simply not exposed unless the firmware configures the pin mux that way. i'd have to dump the firmware in some other way

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                                @whitequark oh how fun, but makes sense for such a pin-constrained device. Is there any other way to access it or is the chip just impossible to reprogram it if it doesnt expose JTAG?

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                                • cinebox@masto.hackers.townC cinebox@masto.hackers.town

                                  @whitequark oh how fun, but makes sense for such a pin-constrained device. Is there any other way to access it or is the chip just impossible to reprogram it if it doesnt expose JTAG?

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                                  @cinebox it has a bootloader which I assume is how it's programmed by LEGO; I think I know how to trigger that but I just wanted to connect JTAG because it was more challenging to solder these tiny wires and I'm bad at doing it

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                                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                    after reading the datasheet a bit more carefully, i know why i couldn't: the JTAG port is simply not exposed unless the firmware configures the pin mux that way. i'd have to dump the firmware in some other way

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                                    @whitequark could it have booted in cJTAG mode?

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                                    • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                                      @whitequark could it have booted in cJTAG mode?

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                                      @ldcd the datasheet explicitly says the JTAG pins are GPIO'd

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                                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                        here's a video that shows in more detail the moldwork in the transparent plastic part

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                                        @whitequark are the pips on top buttons too?

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                                        • lenary@types.plL lenary@types.pl

                                          @whitequark are the pips on top buttons too?

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                                          @lenary no, just normal lego brick shape

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