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  3. first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

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  • mlp@defcon.socialM mlp@defcon.social

    @azonenberg @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg
    When Microchip first produced a PIC32 it was built around MIPS (I was at HI-TECH Software at the time - we had a compiler targeting it). Later they acquired Atmel and renamed the (ARM-based) SAM series "PIC32..."

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    @mlp @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg yes I'm talking about their embedded controllers for laptops etc not general purposes MCUs.

    Real PIC32 is mips, not the rebranded SAMs sold under the pic32 brand

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    • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

      @whitequark What are you using to dump the chips?

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      @drwho https://glasgow-embedded.org/

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        @drwho https://glasgow-embedded.org/

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        @whitequark Cool! Thank you.

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          alright let's dump the ARC chip now

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          @whitequark 🤘

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic. the injecton molding remains impeccable, at least for this specific piece (I know about their recent QC issues elsewhere)

            it's hard for me to look at the positively microscopic (I am literally using a microscope to look at it) "Li-Ion" lettering and think of anything but "showing off!"

            (treehouse doesn't let me attach the full size images, you can grab them here: front, side)

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            @whitequark but the most important question remains unanswered: Can you make it play actual star wars sounds instead of the unintelligible gibberish now? 😄

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              alright let's dump the ARC chip now

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              #154

              not my best work but it should do the trick

              feat. comically big q-tip

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                not my best work but it should do the trick

                feat. comically big q-tip

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                @whitequark oh lol I thought it was a cat’s paw

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                • dev@discuss.systemsD dev@discuss.systems

                  @whitequark oh lol I thought it was a cat’s paw

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                  @dev that would be a really small cat

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    not my best work but it should do the trick

                    feat. comically big q-tip

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                    unfortunately, i could not access JTAG. i think i ran out of time i have for playing with this board, good luck @ everyone else

                    shout out to:
                    https://github.com/nanash1/smart_brick
                    https://codeberg.org/shelfofsheelfs/SMART-Brick
                    for doing good work!

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      unfortunately, i could not access JTAG. i think i ran out of time i have for playing with this board, good luck @ everyone else

                      shout out to:
                      https://github.com/nanash1/smart_brick
                      https://codeberg.org/shelfofsheelfs/SMART-Brick
                      for doing good work!

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                      after reading the datasheet a bit more carefully, i know why i couldn't: the JTAG port is simply not exposed unless the firmware configures the pin mux that way. i'd have to dump the firmware in some other way

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        after reading the datasheet a bit more carefully, i know why i couldn't: the JTAG port is simply not exposed unless the firmware configures the pin mux that way. i'd have to dump the firmware in some other way

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                        @whitequark oh how fun, but makes sense for such a pin-constrained device. Is there any other way to access it or is the chip just impossible to reprogram it if it doesnt expose JTAG?

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                        • cinebox@masto.hackers.townC cinebox@masto.hackers.town

                          @whitequark oh how fun, but makes sense for such a pin-constrained device. Is there any other way to access it or is the chip just impossible to reprogram it if it doesnt expose JTAG?

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                          @cinebox it has a bootloader which I assume is how it's programmed by LEGO; I think I know how to trigger that but I just wanted to connect JTAG because it was more challenging to solder these tiny wires and I'm bad at doing it

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                          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                            after reading the datasheet a bit more carefully, i know why i couldn't: the JTAG port is simply not exposed unless the firmware configures the pin mux that way. i'd have to dump the firmware in some other way

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                            @whitequark could it have booted in cJTAG mode?

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                            • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                              @whitequark could it have booted in cJTAG mode?

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                              @ldcd the datasheet explicitly says the JTAG pins are GPIO'd

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                              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                here's a video that shows in more detail the moldwork in the transparent plastic part

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                                @whitequark are the pips on top buttons too?

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                                • lenary@types.plL lenary@types.pl

                                  @whitequark are the pips on top buttons too?

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                                  @lenary no, just normal lego brick shape

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                                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                    not my best work but it should do the trick

                                    feat. comically big q-tip

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                                    @whitequark I know this seems like an ordinary jump to you but if I managed to get one as clean as this, I'd feel like a goddamn hero 😭

                                    I ruined a beautiful rf01(one of those xbox 360 donor rf recievers wired through usb) with my soldering

                                    Then it died but I think that was because I wasn't supplying the right power the right way(iirc it wanted a stable 3.3v and I just gave it a nodemcu 3v3) which was a common problem on these boards

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                                    • sounddrill@infosec.exchangeS sounddrill@infosec.exchange

                                      @whitequark I know this seems like an ordinary jump to you but if I managed to get one as clean as this, I'd feel like a goddamn hero 😭

                                      I ruined a beautiful rf01(one of those xbox 360 donor rf recievers wired through usb) with my soldering

                                      Then it died but I think that was because I wasn't supplying the right power the right way(iirc it wanted a stable 3.3v and I just gave it a nodemcu 3v3) which was a common problem on these boards

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                                      @sounddrill if you're in the area I can teach you how to do it as cleanly as this. nothing special about it

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                                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                        finally done. no shorts and (as far as i can tell under mag) no opens

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                                        @whitequark This is wonderful 🙂

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                                        • triplef@bildung.socialT triplef@bildung.social

                                          @whitequark but the most important question remains unanswered: Can you make it play actual star wars sounds instead of the unintelligible gibberish now? 😄

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                                          @triplef that would have to involve the totally undocumented ASIC

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