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  3. first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    not my best work but it should do the trick

    feat. comically big q-tip

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    @whitequark oh lol I thought it was a cat’s paw

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    • dev@discuss.systemsD dev@discuss.systems

      @whitequark oh lol I thought it was a cat’s paw

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      @dev that would be a really small cat

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        not my best work but it should do the trick

        feat. comically big q-tip

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        unfortunately, i could not access JTAG. i think i ran out of time i have for playing with this board, good luck @ everyone else

        shout out to:
        https://github.com/nanash1/smart_brick
        https://codeberg.org/shelfofsheelfs/SMART-Brick
        for doing good work!

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          unfortunately, i could not access JTAG. i think i ran out of time i have for playing with this board, good luck @ everyone else

          shout out to:
          https://github.com/nanash1/smart_brick
          https://codeberg.org/shelfofsheelfs/SMART-Brick
          for doing good work!

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          after reading the datasheet a bit more carefully, i know why i couldn't: the JTAG port is simply not exposed unless the firmware configures the pin mux that way. i'd have to dump the firmware in some other way

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            after reading the datasheet a bit more carefully, i know why i couldn't: the JTAG port is simply not exposed unless the firmware configures the pin mux that way. i'd have to dump the firmware in some other way

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            @whitequark oh how fun, but makes sense for such a pin-constrained device. Is there any other way to access it or is the chip just impossible to reprogram it if it doesnt expose JTAG?

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            • cinebox@masto.hackers.townC cinebox@masto.hackers.town

              @whitequark oh how fun, but makes sense for such a pin-constrained device. Is there any other way to access it or is the chip just impossible to reprogram it if it doesnt expose JTAG?

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              @cinebox it has a bootloader which I assume is how it's programmed by LEGO; I think I know how to trigger that but I just wanted to connect JTAG because it was more challenging to solder these tiny wires and I'm bad at doing it

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                after reading the datasheet a bit more carefully, i know why i couldn't: the JTAG port is simply not exposed unless the firmware configures the pin mux that way. i'd have to dump the firmware in some other way

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                @whitequark could it have booted in cJTAG mode?

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                • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                  @whitequark could it have booted in cJTAG mode?

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                  @ldcd the datasheet explicitly says the JTAG pins are GPIO'd

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    here's a video that shows in more detail the moldwork in the transparent plastic part

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                    @whitequark are the pips on top buttons too?

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                    • lenary@types.plL lenary@types.pl

                      @whitequark are the pips on top buttons too?

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                      @lenary no, just normal lego brick shape

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        not my best work but it should do the trick

                        feat. comically big q-tip

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                        @whitequark I know this seems like an ordinary jump to you but if I managed to get one as clean as this, I'd feel like a goddamn hero 😭

                        I ruined a beautiful rf01(one of those xbox 360 donor rf recievers wired through usb) with my soldering

                        Then it died but I think that was because I wasn't supplying the right power the right way(iirc it wanted a stable 3.3v and I just gave it a nodemcu 3v3) which was a common problem on these boards

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                        • sounddrill@infosec.exchangeS sounddrill@infosec.exchange

                          @whitequark I know this seems like an ordinary jump to you but if I managed to get one as clean as this, I'd feel like a goddamn hero 😭

                          I ruined a beautiful rf01(one of those xbox 360 donor rf recievers wired through usb) with my soldering

                          Then it died but I think that was because I wasn't supplying the right power the right way(iirc it wanted a stable 3.3v and I just gave it a nodemcu 3v3) which was a common problem on these boards

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                          @sounddrill if you're in the area I can teach you how to do it as cleanly as this. nothing special about it

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                          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                            finally done. no shorts and (as far as i can tell under mag) no opens

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                            @whitequark This is wonderful 🙂

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                            • triplef@bildung.socialT triplef@bildung.social

                              @whitequark but the most important question remains unanswered: Can you make it play actual star wars sounds instead of the unintelligible gibberish now? 😄

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                              @triplef that would have to involve the totally undocumented ASIC

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                              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                @triplef that would have to involve the totally undocumented ASIC

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                                @triplef honestly the easiest way would be to join LEGO and get all the docs. I probably could do this if I wanted

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                                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                  @sounddrill if you're in the area I can teach you how to do it as cleanly as this. nothing special about it

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                                  @whitequark I'm way out in South India but hey, thanks!

                                  I first learned basics of PCB design years ago over a discord server so I'll be sure to ask if I need to pick something up

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                                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                    @ldcd the datasheet explicitly says the JTAG pins are GPIO'd

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                                    @whitequark yup i only mention because TMSC (GPIO11) and TCKC (GPIO10) both go straight to vias (and then maybe to the array of testpoints on the back?); Wheras TDO (GPIO9) seems to go to the flash and TDI (GPIO8) seems to go ??.

                                    So I was thinking there's a chance they might be explicitly configuring it as cJTAG and using it for a boundary scan test after manufacture.

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                                    • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                                      @whitequark yup i only mention because TMSC (GPIO11) and TCKC (GPIO10) both go straight to vias (and then maybe to the array of testpoints on the back?); Wheras TDO (GPIO9) seems to go to the flash and TDI (GPIO8) seems to go ??.

                                      So I was thinking there's a chance they might be explicitly configuring it as cJTAG and using it for a boundary scan test after manufacture.

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                                      @whitequark if the REd schematic is to believed TCKC goes only to a testpoint

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                                      • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                                        @whitequark if the REd schematic is to believed TCKC goes only to a testpoint

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                                        @ldcd hm it's possible but i haven't implemented cJTAG yet so can't easily test

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                                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                          @ldcd hm it's possible but i haven't implemented cJTAG yet so can't easily test

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                                          @whitequark yeah it's a PITA I was trying to bring up a CC1354 and just could not get it to respond

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