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  3. first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

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  • wren6991@types.plW wren6991@types.pl

    @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg ...are you sure it's not just CLZ?

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    @wren6991@types.pl @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems @gsuberland@chaos.social @ldcd@social.treehouse.systems @ftg@mastodon.radio ceil(log2(n+1)) is clz, and is somewhat often defined as such so wouldn't surprise me (I doubt it would actually have floating point log)

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    • ignaloidas@not.acu.ltI ignaloidas@not.acu.lt

      @wren6991@types.pl @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems @gsuberland@chaos.social @ldcd@social.treehouse.systems @ftg@mastodon.radio ceil(log2(n+1)) is clz, and is somewhat often defined as such so wouldn't surprise me (I doubt it would actually have floating point log)

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      @ignaloidas @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg @wren6991 i have literally never seen clz implemented that way

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        @ignaloidas @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg @wren6991 i have literally never seen clz implemented that way

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        @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems @gsuberland@chaos.social @ldcd@social.treehouse.systems @ftg@mastodon.radio @wren6991@types.pl jpeg xl uses the log2 way in it's spec (it took me a bit of thinking to reverse it)

        (wait, now that I'm re-thinking, that's not clz but bitsize minus clz but basically same)

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        • ignaloidas@not.acu.ltI ignaloidas@not.acu.lt

          @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems @gsuberland@chaos.social @ldcd@social.treehouse.systems @ftg@mastodon.radio @wren6991@types.pl jpeg xl uses the log2 way in it's spec (it took me a bit of thinking to reverse it)

          (wait, now that I'm re-thinking, that's not clz but bitsize minus clz but basically same)

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          @ignaloidas @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg @whitequark (implements XOR instruction) Galois Field Addition Accelerator 😎

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            here's the flash contents https://upload.whitequark.org/1775953651-lego_brick_00F2MZ_749DF5_W25Q16JWBY.bin

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            @whitequark hey @zhuowei does this match anything you found in the LEGO Smart Brick app? Or does the app have a newer firmware version?

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            • N nicolas17@social.treehouse.systems

              @whitequark hey @zhuowei does this match anything you found in the LEGO Smart Brick app? Or does the app have a newer firmware version?

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              @nicolas17 @whitequark @zhuowei for everyone else who got invested now, I think you're referring to this thread: https://notnow.dev/objects/cccfc047-da57-444a-be6f-63a5a766bcf7

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              • wren6991@types.plW This user is from outside of this forum
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                @whitequark cpu_top is clearly a Verilog module name lmao

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  here's the flash contents https://upload.whitequark.org/1775953651-lego_brick_00F2MZ_749DF5_W25Q16JWBY.bin

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                  here's how the flash was mounted in its natural environment, in absence of feline predators

                  the SPI bus seems to be shared with something else & they're definitely using ViP

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                  • wren6991@types.plW wren6991@types.pl

                    @whitequark cpu_top is clearly a Verilog module name lmao

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                    @wren6991 yep!

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      here's how the flash was mounted in its natural environment, in absence of feline predators

                      the SPI bus seems to be shared with something else & they're definitely using ViP

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                      @whitequark very important pad

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        here's how the flash was mounted in its natural environment, in absence of feline predators

                        the SPI bus seems to be shared with something else & they're definitely using ViP

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                        alright let's dump the ARC chip now

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                        • artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gayA artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gay

                          @whitequark very important pad

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                          @artemist @whitequark 🅱️IP

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                          • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                            @artemist @whitequark 🅱️IP

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                            @ldcd @whitequark 🆎ℹ️🅿️

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                            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                              complete success

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                              @whitequark What are you using to dump the chips?

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                              • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

                                @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg huh I thought microchip ECs were mostly arm based

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                                @azonenberg @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg
                                When Microchip first produced a PIC32 it was built around MIPS (I was at HI-TECH Software at the time - we had a compiler targeting it). Later they acquired Atmel and renamed the (ARM-based) SAM series "PIC32..."

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                                • mlp@defcon.socialM mlp@defcon.social

                                  @azonenberg @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg
                                  When Microchip first produced a PIC32 it was built around MIPS (I was at HI-TECH Software at the time - we had a compiler targeting it). Later they acquired Atmel and renamed the (ARM-based) SAM series "PIC32..."

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                                  @mlp @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg yes I'm talking about their embedded controllers for laptops etc not general purposes MCUs.

                                  Real PIC32 is mips, not the rebranded SAMs sold under the pic32 brand

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                                  • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                                    @whitequark What are you using to dump the chips?

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                                    @drwho https://glasgow-embedded.org/

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                                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                      @drwho https://glasgow-embedded.org/

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                                      @whitequark Cool! Thank you.

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                                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                        alright let's dump the ARC chip now

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                                        @whitequark 🤘

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                                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                          first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic. the injecton molding remains impeccable, at least for this specific piece (I know about their recent QC issues elsewhere)

                                          it's hard for me to look at the positively microscopic (I am literally using a microscope to look at it) "Li-Ion" lettering and think of anything but "showing off!"

                                          (treehouse doesn't let me attach the full size images, you can grab them here: front, side)

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                                          @whitequark but the most important question remains unanswered: Can you make it play actual star wars sounds instead of the unintelligible gibberish now? 😄

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