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  3. first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

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  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

    @ldcd @whitequark @ftg almost certainly a hardware log2 instruction bolted on. I wonder if they're using it for FFT or something.

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    @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg well yes they call it a log2() accelerator but why

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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      contrary to everything i've seen online, this is a Winbond W25Q16JWBY part (but one person got the closest, they thought it is a W25Q16JVBY. the difference is major: one is 3.3V, the other is 1.8V)

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      NotImplementedError: quad enablement SFDPJEDECQuadEnableRequirements.Reg2Bit1_Read35h_Write05h not implemented yet

      ah yes. i remember why i hate SPI flashes now

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        NotImplementedError: quad enablement SFDPJEDECQuadEnableRequirements.Reg2Bit1_Read35h_Write05h not implemented yet

        ah yes. i remember why i hate SPI flashes now

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        tried using dual mode and the SFDP tells me to transmit half a byte

        once i dump it this flash is definitely going into the naughty pile (of unit tests in glasgow)

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg well yes they call it a log2() accelerator but why

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          @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg ...are you sure it's not just CLZ?

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg well yes they call it a log2() accelerator but why

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            @whitequark @ldcd @ftg hmm, seems to be hardware log2p0 and log2p1 intrinsics. weird.

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            • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

              @whitequark @ldcd @ftg hmm, seems to be hardware log2p0 and log2p1 intrinsics. weird.

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              @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg what is the p0/p1?

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg what is the p0/p1?

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                @whitequark @ldcd @ftg log2p0 is plain integer log base 2 (I think with always round down behaviour?) and log2p1 is the same but add 1 after. the latter is used to calculate how many bits are needed to store a given number. I know the latter gets used in some AV compression algorithms, idk about the decompression algorithms though.

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  tried using dual mode and the SFDP tells me to transmit half a byte

                  once i dump it this flash is definitely going into the naughty pile (of unit tests in glasgow)

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                  here's the flash contents https://upload.whitequark.org/1775953651-lego_brick_00F2MZ_749DF5_W25Q16JWBY.bin

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                  • wren6991@types.plW wren6991@types.pl

                    @whitequark @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg ...are you sure it's not just CLZ?

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                    @wren6991@types.pl @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems @gsuberland@chaos.social @ldcd@social.treehouse.systems @ftg@mastodon.radio ceil(log2(n+1)) is clz, and is somewhat often defined as such so wouldn't surprise me (I doubt it would actually have floating point log)

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                    • ignaloidas@not.acu.ltI ignaloidas@not.acu.lt

                      @wren6991@types.pl @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems @gsuberland@chaos.social @ldcd@social.treehouse.systems @ftg@mastodon.radio ceil(log2(n+1)) is clz, and is somewhat often defined as such so wouldn't surprise me (I doubt it would actually have floating point log)

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                      @ignaloidas @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg @wren6991 i have literally never seen clz implemented that way

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        @ignaloidas @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg @wren6991 i have literally never seen clz implemented that way

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                        @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems @gsuberland@chaos.social @ldcd@social.treehouse.systems @ftg@mastodon.radio @wren6991@types.pl jpeg xl uses the log2 way in it's spec (it took me a bit of thinking to reverse it)

                        (wait, now that I'm re-thinking, that's not clz but bitsize minus clz but basically same)

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                        • ignaloidas@not.acu.ltI ignaloidas@not.acu.lt

                          @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems @gsuberland@chaos.social @ldcd@social.treehouse.systems @ftg@mastodon.radio @wren6991@types.pl jpeg xl uses the log2 way in it's spec (it took me a bit of thinking to reverse it)

                          (wait, now that I'm re-thinking, that's not clz but bitsize minus clz but basically same)

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                          @ignaloidas @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg @whitequark (implements XOR instruction) Galois Field Addition Accelerator 😎

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                          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                            here's the flash contents https://upload.whitequark.org/1775953651-lego_brick_00F2MZ_749DF5_W25Q16JWBY.bin

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                            @whitequark hey @zhuowei does this match anything you found in the LEGO Smart Brick app? Or does the app have a newer firmware version?

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                              @whitequark hey @zhuowei does this match anything you found in the LEGO Smart Brick app? Or does the app have a newer firmware version?

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                              @nicolas17 @whitequark @zhuowei for everyone else who got invested now, I think you're referring to this thread: https://notnow.dev/objects/cccfc047-da57-444a-be6f-63a5a766bcf7

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                                @whitequark cpu_top is clearly a Verilog module name lmao

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                                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                  here's the flash contents https://upload.whitequark.org/1775953651-lego_brick_00F2MZ_749DF5_W25Q16JWBY.bin

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                                  here's how the flash was mounted in its natural environment, in absence of feline predators

                                  the SPI bus seems to be shared with something else & they're definitely using ViP

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                                  • wren6991@types.plW wren6991@types.pl

                                    @whitequark cpu_top is clearly a Verilog module name lmao

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                                    @wren6991 yep!

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                                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                      here's how the flash was mounted in its natural environment, in absence of feline predators

                                      the SPI bus seems to be shared with something else & they're definitely using ViP

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                                      @whitequark very important pad

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                                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                        here's how the flash was mounted in its natural environment, in absence of feline predators

                                        the SPI bus seems to be shared with something else & they're definitely using ViP

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                                        alright let's dump the ARC chip now

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                                        • artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gayA artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gay

                                          @whitequark very important pad

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                                          @artemist @whitequark 🅱️IP

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