google is broken...
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google is broken...
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google is broken...
@liaizon alsp lol this costs like a dollar a pop for them
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@matt I mean I guess its working, I just googled a bunch of things cause of how ridiculously wrong all the answers are, so maybe thats their game
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@matt I mean I guess its working, I just googled a bunch of things cause of how ridiculously wrong all the answers are, so maybe thats their game
@liaizon That's right! More time in Google products, eyeballing the ads they baked into responses!
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@liaizon alsp lol this costs like a dollar a pop for them
@jackperkins naaaa, they are not using their good models for this, they are using their cheapest shit for it, I would assume more like 000000.1cent per query
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@oppen who needs to know anything when you can just guess the answer based on a probability that is right a good amount of the time!?
@liaizon In $dayjob we have an elusive bug in our impl. of Android's MediaSession/ExoPlayer. Having previously spent days trying to fix it I thought I'd try the Claude account we're testing, let's see if the AI can find the problem... it's very very confidentlly identified the issue in 3 or 4 places so far, none of the fixes it's added have worked at all, but the language it uses is so matter of fact. It's a user-facing issue and the in-app radio playback locks up until restart, so big problem when it happens, the 1st time Claude said it knew what the issue was I was momentarily very happy...
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@liaizon In $dayjob we have an elusive bug in our impl. of Android's MediaSession/ExoPlayer. Having previously spent days trying to fix it I thought I'd try the Claude account we're testing, let's see if the AI can find the problem... it's very very confidentlly identified the issue in 3 or 4 places so far, none of the fixes it's added have worked at all, but the language it uses is so matter of fact. It's a user-facing issue and the in-app radio playback locks up until restart, so big problem when it happens, the 1st time Claude said it knew what the issue was I was momentarily very happy...
@oppen it so often being confidently wrong is one of the most annoying aspects of this jank for sure. I think many people would respond better to a bunch more of "I don't know!" responses littered in (it could probably just be randomized) just to have less certainty...
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amazing how jank this all is
@liaizon Perfect comedy! Really digging the references on this one:
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@liaizon Perfect comedy! Really digging the references on this one:
@despens its amazing to see how everytime google uses citations they are basically randomly added later. like it makes up some shit, then "cites" it by just showing a link that contains a single word of your search.
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@despens its amazing to see how everytime google uses citations they are basically randomly added later. like it makes up some shit, then "cites" it by just showing a link that contains a single word of your search.
@liaizon
This post of yours is actually a prompt that forms the foundation of a billion dollar business -
amazing how jank this all is
@liaizon
The correct answer is 3.
"Rassemblement National" -
amazing how jank this all is
@liaizon missed opportunity, Google, missed opportunity.
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@liaizon missed opportunity, Google, missed opportunity.
@fluchtkapsel its impressive how consistent this "bug" is, like they have to realize it by now. I wonder what the internal Google chat looksike atm
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amazing how jank this all is
someone at google is still alive!
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someone at google is still alive!
@liaizon
the sad thing is that they can (and might) fix this, but the fix will be one of these two:1. have the model run much longer, then have another model read that output and summarize: "reasoning" (aka maximize resource burning)
2. give the AI a traditionally-implemented "count characters in word" tool (address the symptom, aka admit defeat. -
@liaizon
the sad thing is that they can (and might) fix this, but the fix will be one of these two:1. have the model run much longer, then have another model read that output and summarize: "reasoning" (aka maximize resource burning)
2. give the AI a traditionally-implemented "count characters in word" tool (address the symptom, aka admit defeat.@s_ol it should be doing tool calls anyway for many questions. Like Google search used to do basic math and equations inline without searching.
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@liaizon
the sad thing is that they can (and might) fix this, but the fix will be one of these two:1. have the model run much longer, then have another model read that output and summarize: "reasoning" (aka maximize resource burning)
2. give the AI a traditionally-implemented "count characters in word" tool (address the symptom, aka admit defeat.@liaizon
i was under the impression that other general-purpose models have solved this and would've guessed they implemented option 2 but actually chatgpt is still confidently wrong (now with sources!)
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@liaizon
i was under the impression that other general-purpose models have solved this and would've guessed they implemented option 2 but actually chatgpt is still confidently wrong (now with sources!)@s_ol I love how all these companies are completely ruining the concept of souces and citations
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@liaizon
the sad thing is that they can (and might) fix this, but the fix will be one of these two:1. have the model run much longer, then have another model read that output and summarize: "reasoning" (aka maximize resource burning)
2. give the AI a traditionally-implemented "count characters in word" tool (address the symptom, aka admit defeat. -
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