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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/38de0c5b-90ef-402d-9bcd-064d0f0bd62d/google-is-broken...RSS for NodeSat, 30 May 2026 20:08:15 GMTTue, 26 May 2026 12:34:14 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Thu, 28 May 2026 09:24:15 GMT]]>@mntmn @s_ol how many pythons does it take to change a lightbulb?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116651475323262993https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116651475323262993Thu, 28 May 2026 09:24:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Thu, 28 May 2026 09:20:22 GMT]]>@s_ol @liaizon last night when i tried exactly this, it was already using python to count chars, but only sometimes. when i asked "how many p in paraphernalia" it said 3. so it's just very random

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mntmn/statuses/116651460057591951https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mntmn/statuses/116651460057591951Thu, 28 May 2026 09:20:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Thu, 28 May 2026 09:18:19 GMT]]>@s_ol I love how all these companies are completely ruining the concept of souces and citations

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116651451962944235https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116651451962944235Thu, 28 May 2026 09:18:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Thu, 28 May 2026 09:04:04 GMT]]>@liaizon
i was under the impression that other general-purpose models have solved this and would've guessed they implemented option 2 but actually chatgpt is still confidently wrong (now with sources!)

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://merveilles.town/users/s_ol/statuses/116651395928828420https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://merveilles.town/users/s_ol/statuses/116651395928828420Thu, 28 May 2026 09:04:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Thu, 28 May 2026 09:02:17 GMT]]>@s_ol it should be doing tool calls anyway for many questions. Like Google search used to do basic math and equations inline without searching.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116651388931270084https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116651388931270084Thu, 28 May 2026 09:02:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Thu, 28 May 2026 09:00:34 GMT]]>@liaizon
the sad thing is that they can (and might) fix this, but the fix will be one of these two:

1. have the model run much longer, then have another model read that output and summarize: "reasoning" (aka maximize resource burning)
2. give the AI a traditionally-implemented "count characters in word" tool (address the symptom, aka admit defeat.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://merveilles.town/users/s_ol/statuses/116651382160074922https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://merveilles.town/users/s_ol/statuses/116651382160074922Thu, 28 May 2026 09:00:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Thu, 28 May 2026 08:37:07 GMT]]>someone at google is still alive!

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116651289987097808https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116651289987097808Thu, 28 May 2026 08:37:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 16:32:19 GMT]]>@fluchtkapsel its impressive how consistent this "bug" is, like they have to realize it by now. I wonder what the internal Google chat looksike atm

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116641833904500884https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116641833904500884Tue, 26 May 2026 16:32:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 16:31:08 GMT]]>@liaizon missed opportunity, Google, missed opportunity.

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://nerdculture.de/users/fluchtkapsel/statuses/116641829256987416https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://nerdculture.de/users/fluchtkapsel/statuses/116641829256987416Tue, 26 May 2026 16:31:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 14:47:04 GMT]]>@liaizon
The correct answer is 3.
"Rassemblement National"

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://framapiaf.org/users/gub/statuses/116641420058469018https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://framapiaf.org/users/gub/statuses/116641420058469018Tue, 26 May 2026 14:47:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 13:42:29 GMT]]>@liaizon 👆 This post of yours is actually a prompt that forms the foundation of a billion dollar business

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://post.lurk.org/users/despens/statuses/116641166115641002https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://post.lurk.org/users/despens/statuses/116641166115641002Tue, 26 May 2026 13:42:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 13:41:35 GMT]]>@despens its amazing to see how everytime google uses citations they are basically randomly added later. like it makes up some shit, then "cites" it by just showing a link that contains a single word of your search.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116641162547818840https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116641162547818840Tue, 26 May 2026 13:41:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 13:37:26 GMT]]>@liaizon Perfect comedy! Really digging the references on this one:

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://post.lurk.org/users/despens/statuses/116641146268065820https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://post.lurk.org/users/despens/statuses/116641146268065820Tue, 26 May 2026 13:37:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 13:00:33 GMT]]>@oppen it so often being confidently wrong is one of the most annoying aspects of this jank for sure. I think many people would respond better to a bunch more of "I don't know!" responses littered in (it could probably just be randomized) just to have less certainty...

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116641001195453069https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116641001195453069Tue, 26 May 2026 13:00:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 12:54:11 GMT]]>@liaizon In $dayjob we have an elusive bug in our impl. of Android's MediaSession/ExoPlayer. Having previously spent days trying to fix it I thought I'd try the Claude account we're testing, let's see if the AI can find the problem... it's very very confidentlly identified the issue in 3 or 4 places so far, none of the fixes it's added have worked at all, but the language it uses is so matter of fact. It's a user-facing issue and the in-app radio playback locks up until restart, so big problem when it happens, the 1st time Claude said it knew what the issue was I was momentarily very happy...

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://merveilles.town/users/oppen/statuses/116640976159048808https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://merveilles.town/users/oppen/statuses/116640976159048808Tue, 26 May 2026 12:54:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 12:52:23 GMT]]>@jackperkins naaaa, they are not using their good models for this, they are using their cheapest shit for it, I would assume more like 000000.1cent per query

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116640969096189339https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116640969096189339Tue, 26 May 2026 12:52:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 12:52:11 GMT]]>@liaizon That's right! More time in Google products, eyeballing the ads they baked into responses!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://oslo.town/users/matt/statuses/116640968310414458https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://oslo.town/users/matt/statuses/116640968310414458Tue, 26 May 2026 12:52:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 12:50:27 GMT]]>@matt I mean I guess its working, I just googled a bunch of things cause of how ridiculously wrong all the answers are, so maybe thats their game

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116640961496706323https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116640961496706323Tue, 26 May 2026 12:50:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 12:50:21 GMT]]>@liaizon alsp lol this costs like a dollar a pop for them

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://post.lurk.org/users/jackperkins/statuses/116640961091467726https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://post.lurk.org/users/jackperkins/statuses/116640961091467726Tue, 26 May 2026 12:50:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 12:47:11 GMT]]>@liaizon

Marked as: Won't Fix.

This is a feature, not a bug 😉

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://oslo.town/users/matt/statuses/116640948633038469https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://oslo.town/users/matt/statuses/116640948633038469Tue, 26 May 2026 12:47:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 12:46:48 GMT]]>@oppen who needs to know anything when you can just guess the answer based on a probability that is right a good amount of the time!?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116640947151715784https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116640947151715784Tue, 26 May 2026 12:46:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 12:41:14 GMT]]>@liaizon still amazes me the turn the entire industry took with this shit.

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116640923848197592https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/116640923848197592Tue, 26 May 2026 12:40:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to google is broken... on Tue, 26 May 2026 12:37:42 GMT]]>I guess this one is technically correct, but sorta weird dad joke vibes

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