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  • her_doing@sunny.gardenH her_doing@sunny.garden

    @DarkSheepArts

    I think a lot about all of these & I don't think your interpretations are wrong. They would all be red flags for me, especially 'busy, fast-paced environment', 'proactive self-starter', and 'motivated & committed' - they all feel like they would suck me dry and give zero support.

    (Possibly because I have worked in all these jobs & that's exactly what happened.)

    I want job listings that say "Job. Duties are A, B, C. Pay is X.'

    Bonus if they give the vibe 'We're all reasonable & professional adults here & expect you to be too'.

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    @Her_Doing @DarkSheepArts with the current place and general 2020s IT bullshittery, I could really do with a couple years in something that's "here's what you do every day, it's all fully known, we'll pay you"

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    • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

      So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

      "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

      "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

      "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

      "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

      "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

      (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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      @DarkSheepArts See, this is how I often interpret this too. I thought I was being narrowminded and/or negative about it

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      • catwoman69y2k@meow.socialC catwoman69y2k@meow.social

        @DarkSheepArts See, this is how I often interpret this too. I thought I was being narrowminded and/or negative about it

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        @Catwoman69y2k

        I think they should be taken at face value - for my sector at least, there are enough jobs that don't use that language that I always think it's a bad sign when they do.

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        • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

          So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

          "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

          "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

          "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

          "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

          "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

          (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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          @DarkSheepArts There are some good places, but it's got so they're surprising.

          (and the effort to make them not-good is of course not an accident; nothing consistent is an accident.)

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          • her_doing@sunny.gardenH her_doing@sunny.garden

            @DarkSheepArts

            I think a lot about all of these & I don't think your interpretations are wrong. They would all be red flags for me, especially 'busy, fast-paced environment', 'proactive self-starter', and 'motivated & committed' - they all feel like they would suck me dry and give zero support.

            (Possibly because I have worked in all these jobs & that's exactly what happened.)

            I want job listings that say "Job. Duties are A, B, C. Pay is X.'

            Bonus if they give the vibe 'We're all reasonable & professional adults here & expect you to be too'.

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            @Her_Doing @DarkSheepArts My favorite is when the business says "we're a family!", as if most families are not deeply dysfunctional

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            • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

              So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

              "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

              "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

              "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

              "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

              "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

              (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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              @DarkSheepArts “organised and self-assured” - it’s total chaos over here and Nancy from accounting will actively try to break you

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              • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                @Her_Doing @DarkSheepArts My favorite is when the business says "we're a family!", as if most families are not deeply dysfunctional

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                @jalefkowit

                Oh God, I worked at one of those. Abolutely the reddest of red flags.

                @Her_Doing

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                • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

                  So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

                  "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

                  "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

                  "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

                  "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

                  "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

                  (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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                  @DarkSheepArts "like family": Your supervisor will downplay your needs if you are disabled and without children, compared to the parents, and furthermore will act like they appointed themself your new parent. Also you are 12; that's how the theory works, right?

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                  • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

                    So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

                    "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

                    "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

                    "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

                    "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

                    "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

                    (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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                    @DarkSheepArts I have never understood the supposed allure of "fast-paced." Being a go-getter rarely gets rewarded, but rather just increases your workload so that you now work the jobs of two people, saving the company a ton of money.

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                    • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

                      So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

                      "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

                      "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

                      "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

                      "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

                      "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

                      (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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                      @DarkSheepArts This feels accurate.

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                      • kimlockhartga@beige.partyK kimlockhartga@beige.party

                        @DarkSheepArts I have never understood the supposed allure of "fast-paced." Being a go-getter rarely gets rewarded, but rather just increases your workload so that you now work the jobs of two people, saving the company a ton of money.

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                        @kimlockhartga

                        I've always wondered if it's in there so that when you complain that you're being expected to do three people's jobs, they can be like "we warned you it was fast paced and busy..."

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                        • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

                          So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

                          "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

                          "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

                          "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

                          "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

                          "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

                          (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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                          @DarkSheepArts "We're a family" - we'll never let you get a union in here

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                          • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

                            So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

                            "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

                            "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

                            "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

                            "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

                            "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

                            (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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                            @DarkSheepArts The "proactive self starter" one made me smile. A few years back I was interviewed for a very undefined role purely because I had been employed for the firm whose software they were migrating to.

                            Given my experiance of the project management at that previous firm was akin to watching squirrels on acid bobsledding, I declined the job offer.

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                            • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

                              So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

                              "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

                              "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

                              "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

                              "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

                              "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

                              (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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                              @DarkSheepArts@mastoart.social these are great translations

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                              • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

                                So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

                                "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

                                "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

                                "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

                                "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

                                "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

                                (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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                                @DarkSheepArts I interviewed with a CTO that described themselves as "an ideas engine" I mentally translated this to "bell end" Another gem was being asked what my superpower was? My thought was that I'm not fucking eight years old!

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                                • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

                                  So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

                                  "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

                                  "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

                                  "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

                                  "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

                                  "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

                                  (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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                                  @DarkSheepArts "Some overtime required, as necessary" : You live here now.

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                                  • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

                                    So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

                                    "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

                                    "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

                                    "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

                                    "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

                                    "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

                                    (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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                                    @DarkSheepArts "friendly team" is something you'd expect as a norm too, saying it def gives off the opposite vibes

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                                    • darksheeparts@mastoart.socialD darksheeparts@mastoart.social

                                      So, looking at job ads in the UK. Mentally translating some of the jargon:

                                      "Busy, fast paced environment" - Impossible workloads

                                      "Friendly team" - welcome back to secondary school, fit in or die

                                      "Creative environment" - we absolutely do not plan a single thing we do

                                      "Proactive self starter" - We don't understand this job but we're hoping you do

                                      "Motivated and committed" - you live here now.

                                      (I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure there are some good places)

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                                      @DarkSheepArts

                                      "A young dynamic team" - you're too old to work here. Also the dynamism lies in the not-required, but totally required 80 hour weeks.

                                      @kimlockhartga

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                                      • jennyfluff@chitter.xyzJ jennyfluff@chitter.xyz

                                        @DarkSheepArts "creative environment" - how dare you ask to work remotely

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                                        @JennyFluff
                                        "Tight-knit team" - codependent psychopaths
                                        @DarkSheepArts

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                                        • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                                          @JennyFluff
                                          "Tight-knit team" - codependent psychopaths
                                          @DarkSheepArts

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                                          @xinit @DarkSheepArts oh I thought that was code for micro-managing middle managers

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