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  • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

    9GW datacentre approved. I'm trying to get my head round the scale of this. The whole of the UK uses about 40GW of electricity. So this one facility is a quarter of the UK grid. In one location. I had to look up box elder county on Wikipedia. "Its territory includes large tracts of barren desert,". Right, so a datacentre that uses the same amount of electricity as a quarter of the UK. In a fucking desert. And that's before we even consider the CO2 emissions. Yikes.

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    @quixoticgeek how much water then? Where's it coming from?

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    • ehproque@neopaquita.esE ehproque@neopaquita.es

      @quixoticgeek how much water then? Where's it coming from?

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      @ehproque dunno. I'm scared of the answer.

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      • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

        9GW datacentre approved. I'm trying to get my head round the scale of this. The whole of the UK uses about 40GW of electricity. So this one facility is a quarter of the UK grid. In one location. I had to look up box elder county on Wikipedia. "Its territory includes large tracts of barren desert,". Right, so a datacentre that uses the same amount of electricity as a quarter of the UK. In a fucking desert. And that's before we even consider the CO2 emissions. Yikes.

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        New AI data center in Utah will generate and consume more than twice the amount of power the entire state uses — Kevin O'Leary's 9 Gigawatt Utah data center campus approved

        The 40,000-acre project will run entirely off-grid using natural gas.

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        @quixoticgeek

        Now that the tech exists to generate fabulous amounts of energy, tech and energy oligarchs immediately found ways to waste it to keep it out of the peasants' reach.

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        • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

          9GW datacentre approved. I'm trying to get my head round the scale of this. The whole of the UK uses about 40GW of electricity. So this one facility is a quarter of the UK grid. In one location. I had to look up box elder county on Wikipedia. "Its territory includes large tracts of barren desert,". Right, so a datacentre that uses the same amount of electricity as a quarter of the UK. In a fucking desert. And that's before we even consider the CO2 emissions. Yikes.

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          New AI data center in Utah will generate and consume more than twice the amount of power the entire state uses — Kevin O'Leary's 9 Gigawatt Utah data center campus approved

          The 40,000-acre project will run entirely off-grid using natural gas.

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          @quixoticgeek “2,000 permanent jobs in the county following construction”? Doing what, sweeping the halls?

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          • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

            9GW datacentre approved. I'm trying to get my head round the scale of this. The whole of the UK uses about 40GW of electricity. So this one facility is a quarter of the UK grid. In one location. I had to look up box elder county on Wikipedia. "Its territory includes large tracts of barren desert,". Right, so a datacentre that uses the same amount of electricity as a quarter of the UK. In a fucking desert. And that's before we even consider the CO2 emissions. Yikes.

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            New AI data center in Utah will generate and consume more than twice the amount of power the entire state uses — Kevin O'Leary's 9 Gigawatt Utah data center campus approved

            The 40,000-acre project will run entirely off-grid using natural gas.

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            @quixoticgeek At scale, such a powerful root infrastructure would require more than one source, like geothermal and wind, to justify such an amount. But placing a singular sourcing is an obvious liability with no backup/complimentary framework. It's like putting a large heavy water nuclear reactor in place, instead of smaller, overlapping modular Thorium, or Natrium reactors.

            Simply just another #TechBros money-grab, at the taxpayer's expense.

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            • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

              Based on an estimate of 500g CO2/kWh, the one facility would emit ~40MT of CO2 a year. If this one facility was a country, it would rank about 67th, just behind Bulgaria.

              Concentrating this much energy use in a single location is going to change weather patterns. The environmental impact is just mind boggling.

              The AI bubble can't burst soon enough.

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              @quixoticgeek Utah is already at the brink of collapse due to large farms with little to no environmental management, extremely poor water management, and the ever increasing air pollution in the Wasatch Valley where most of the people live. Add to that the ultra conservative majority that have been brainwashed by politicians and the mormon church, and you got a massive environmental desaster in the next 20 years.

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              • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                Based on an estimate of 500g CO2/kWh, the one facility would emit ~40MT of CO2 a year. If this one facility was a country, it would rank about 67th, just behind Bulgaria.

                Concentrating this much energy use in a single location is going to change weather patterns. The environmental impact is just mind boggling.

                The AI bubble can't burst soon enough.

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                @quixoticgeek The best years of my life were spend in SLC, and I still have a lot of great friends living there. Shit like this make me worry a lot.

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                • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                  9GW datacentre approved. I'm trying to get my head round the scale of this. The whole of the UK uses about 40GW of electricity. So this one facility is a quarter of the UK grid. In one location. I had to look up box elder county on Wikipedia. "Its territory includes large tracts of barren desert,". Right, so a datacentre that uses the same amount of electricity as a quarter of the UK. In a fucking desert. And that's before we even consider the CO2 emissions. Yikes.

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                  New AI data center in Utah will generate and consume more than twice the amount of power the entire state uses — Kevin O'Leary's 9 Gigawatt Utah data center campus approved

                  The 40,000-acre project will run entirely off-grid using natural gas.

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                  @quixoticgeek I honestly bet they run out of financing and never finish it.

                  Data center scam has to die.

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                  • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                    9GW datacentre approved. I'm trying to get my head round the scale of this. The whole of the UK uses about 40GW of electricity. So this one facility is a quarter of the UK grid. In one location. I had to look up box elder county on Wikipedia. "Its territory includes large tracts of barren desert,". Right, so a datacentre that uses the same amount of electricity as a quarter of the UK. In a fucking desert. And that's before we even consider the CO2 emissions. Yikes.

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                    New AI data center in Utah will generate and consume more than twice the amount of power the entire state uses — Kevin O'Leary's 9 Gigawatt Utah data center campus approved

                    The 40,000-acre project will run entirely off-grid using natural gas.

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                    @quixoticgeek we’ve become such a shithole country. These things are going to be disastrous.

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                    • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                      9GW datacentre approved. I'm trying to get my head round the scale of this. The whole of the UK uses about 40GW of electricity. So this one facility is a quarter of the UK grid. In one location. I had to look up box elder county on Wikipedia. "Its territory includes large tracts of barren desert,". Right, so a datacentre that uses the same amount of electricity as a quarter of the UK. In a fucking desert. And that's before we even consider the CO2 emissions. Yikes.

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                      New AI data center in Utah will generate and consume more than twice the amount of power the entire state uses — Kevin O'Leary's 9 Gigawatt Utah data center campus approved

                      The 40,000-acre project will run entirely off-grid using natural gas.

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                      @quixoticgeek And not a single panel of solar?

                      And... when it fails, will they turn it into another detention centre for people they don't like?

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                      • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                        9GW datacentre approved. I'm trying to get my head round the scale of this. The whole of the UK uses about 40GW of electricity. So this one facility is a quarter of the UK grid. In one location. I had to look up box elder county on Wikipedia. "Its territory includes large tracts of barren desert,". Right, so a datacentre that uses the same amount of electricity as a quarter of the UK. In a fucking desert. And that's before we even consider the CO2 emissions. Yikes.

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                        New AI data center in Utah will generate and consume more than twice the amount of power the entire state uses — Kevin O'Leary's 9 Gigawatt Utah data center campus approved

                        The 40,000-acre project will run entirely off-grid using natural gas.

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                        @quixoticgeek
                        We should ban all these huge data centres. We don't need AI

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                        • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                          9GW datacentre approved. I'm trying to get my head round the scale of this. The whole of the UK uses about 40GW of electricity. So this one facility is a quarter of the UK grid. In one location. I had to look up box elder county on Wikipedia. "Its territory includes large tracts of barren desert,". Right, so a datacentre that uses the same amount of electricity as a quarter of the UK. In a fucking desert. And that's before we even consider the CO2 emissions. Yikes.

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                          New AI data center in Utah will generate and consume more than twice the amount of power the entire state uses — Kevin O'Leary's 9 Gigawatt Utah data center campus approved

                          The 40,000-acre project will run entirely off-grid using natural gas.

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                          @quixoticgeek ...and it will be the people of Utah who will pay the bill (higher electricity bills, issues with water supply and pressure, etc...)

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                          • quoidian@mastodon.onlineQ quoidian@mastodon.online

                            @Seb1982 @quixoticgeek
                            Disable the cooling system.

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                            @quoidian @Seb1982 @quixoticgeek

                            #Zodiac was a good book.

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                            • ehproque@neopaquita.esE ehproque@neopaquita.es

                              @quixoticgeek how much water then? Where's it coming from?

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                              @ehproque @quixoticgeek

                              See the Colorado River is filled up with water from snow melt that's is eternal, neverending and limitless so.......

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                              • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                9GW datacentre approved. I'm trying to get my head round the scale of this. The whole of the UK uses about 40GW of electricity. So this one facility is a quarter of the UK grid. In one location. I had to look up box elder county on Wikipedia. "Its territory includes large tracts of barren desert,". Right, so a datacentre that uses the same amount of electricity as a quarter of the UK. In a fucking desert. And that's before we even consider the CO2 emissions. Yikes.

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                                New AI data center in Utah will generate and consume more than twice the amount of power the entire state uses — Kevin O'Leary's 9 Gigawatt Utah data center campus approved

                                The 40,000-acre project will run entirely off-grid using natural gas.

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                                @quixoticgeek
                                Countries need to require all #DataCenters to generate their own (#green) electricity (and only use water-free cooling.)

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                                • mighty_orbot@retro.pizzaM mighty_orbot@retro.pizza

                                  @quixoticgeek “2,000 permanent jobs in the county following construction”? Doing what, sweeping the halls?

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                                  @mighty_orbot @quixoticgeek

                                  Licking the wire harnesses clean!

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                                  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                    @quixoticgeek And not a single panel of solar?

                                    And... when it fails, will they turn it into another detention centre for people they don't like?

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                                    @Remittancegirl @quixoticgeek

                                    GPUs are going to be used for paving roads!

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                                    • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                      9GW datacentre approved. I'm trying to get my head round the scale of this. The whole of the UK uses about 40GW of electricity. So this one facility is a quarter of the UK grid. In one location. I had to look up box elder county on Wikipedia. "Its territory includes large tracts of barren desert,". Right, so a datacentre that uses the same amount of electricity as a quarter of the UK. In a fucking desert. And that's before we even consider the CO2 emissions. Yikes.

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                                      New AI data center in Utah will generate and consume more than twice the amount of power the entire state uses — Kevin O'Leary's 9 Gigawatt Utah data center campus approved

                                      The 40,000-acre project will run entirely off-grid using natural gas.

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                                      @quixoticgeek That means 6GW of heat get dissipated into the atmosphere one way or another. Energy is neither created nor destroyed, just released into the atmosphere from where it was bound up as natural gas.
                                      What’s the impact of 6GW of additional heat on the climate?

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                                      • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                        9GW datacentre approved. I'm trying to get my head round the scale of this. The whole of the UK uses about 40GW of electricity. So this one facility is a quarter of the UK grid. In one location. I had to look up box elder county on Wikipedia. "Its territory includes large tracts of barren desert,". Right, so a datacentre that uses the same amount of electricity as a quarter of the UK. In a fucking desert. And that's before we even consider the CO2 emissions. Yikes.

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                                        New AI data center in Utah will generate and consume more than twice the amount of power the entire state uses — Kevin O'Leary's 9 Gigawatt Utah data center campus approved

                                        The 40,000-acre project will run entirely off-grid using natural gas.

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                                        @quixoticgeek as Ed Zitron loves to remind us, _approved_ does not mean it will ever get built.

                                        This will be fought tooth and nail at every inch of the process.

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                                        • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                          Based on an estimate of 500g CO2/kWh, the one facility would emit ~40MT of CO2 a year. If this one facility was a country, it would rank about 67th, just behind Bulgaria.

                                          Concentrating this much energy use in a single location is going to change weather patterns. The environmental impact is just mind boggling.

                                          The AI bubble can't burst soon enough.

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                                          @quixoticgeek plus the use of drinking water. In Spain, they already have desertification made by a data center ...

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