So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API:

[ragectl@hachyderm.io]

@nachtfunke @jaffathecake oh that's easy developers needed to keep using and supporting Firefox because open internet matters more than anything else.

Sadly, majority of developers failed at that, just like they did with Internet Exploder.

[yoasif@mastodon.social]

@jaffathecake Sounds kind of like how #Mozilla pushed ahead with #AI even after your lying polls about the provenance of training data in translations and the multitude of negative comments here and on Mozilla Connect.

Pretty good blind spot for Mozilla - you can only tell when things are bad when your competitors do it.

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[maikel@vmst.io]

@jaffathecake internet explorer from its grave.

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@jaffathecake @joshhunt it's like the XSLT situation in reverse

Google: we want to drop XSLT support

web developers: we really want you to keep XSLT and possibly upgrade support for v3 of the standard so we can use it with JSON too

Google: OK, we've listened to everybody's opinion and nobody wants XSLT so we're dropping it.

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@jaffathecake @joshhunt

(and obviously Mozilla follows suit, because why are they there if not to suck up to the bully)

[platymew@layer8.space]

@yoasif @jaffathecake If the word ends in an s-like phoneme, you're supposed to eschew the s after the apostrophe.

E.g. For Fox' sake!

[yoasif@mastodon.social]

@platymew @jaffathecake MLA and Chicago Manual of Style agree with what I did, at least: https://grammarist.com/punctuation/apostrophe-after-s-rules-and-examples/

[schouten_b@mastodon.social]

@jaffathecake There's a serious question to be asked about whether an engine shipping things which the broader standards community is opposed to can still be considered a standards compliant browser.

[platymew@layer8.space]

@yoasif @jaffathecake Ah, yes, the Bri'ish vs. 'murrican vs. Internet rules of englishing.

[yoasif@mastodon.social]

@Schouten_B @jaffathecake Hasn't that happened before? Who else supported PNaCl?

I think that is kind of an academic question too, unfortunately - most developers seem to care less about whether something is a standard, and more about whether their userbase can access the feature.

[schouten_b@mastodon.social]

@yoasif @jaffathecake Sure, I think the PNaCl objections were of a different, less fundamental nature, but yeah, this is a question I've asked myself more often.

And sure, humans fundamentally look out for number 1 first. You're not wrong, but some do care about standards, I've been considering blocking Chrome on my own sites. Since they aren't commercial anyway and I don't care if people won't switch browsers in order to access them .