<![CDATA[So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API:]]>So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API:

Mozilla: Opposed
WebKit: Opposed
Microsoft: Several concerns
W3C TAG: Several concerns
Developers: Mostly negative

Chrome: Ships anyway.

A sad time for web standards. But, I guess someone at Google will get promoted, so 'every cloudโ€ฆ'

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/2fbd42c2-94ca-41c4-87e5-cdc0ab2e2c7c/so-chrome-s-web-standard-prompt-apiRSS for NodeThu, 14 May 2026 23:16:54 GMTWed, 06 May 2026 09:50:27 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 14:23:04 GMT]]>@yoasif @jaffathecake Sure, I think the PNaCl objections were of a different, less fundamental nature, but yeah, this is a question I've asked myself more often.

And sure, humans fundamentally look out for number 1 first. You're not wrong, but some do care about standards, I've been considering blocking Chrome on my own sites. Since they aren't commercial anyway and I don't care if people won't switch browsers in order to access them ๐Ÿ™‚.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Schouten_B/statuses/116528079463306943https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Schouten_B/statuses/116528079463306943Wed, 06 May 2026 14:23:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 14:16:43 GMT]]>@Schouten_B @jaffathecake Hasn't that happened before? Who else supported PNaCl?

I think that is kind of an academic question too, unfortunately - most developers seem to care less about whether something is a standard, and more about whether their userbase can access the feature.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/yoasif/statuses/116528054475413391https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/yoasif/statuses/116528054475413391Wed, 06 May 2026 14:16:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 14:16:39 GMT]]>@yoasif @jaffathecake Ah, yes, the Bri'ish vs. 'murrican vs. Internet rules of englishing. ๐Ÿ––๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ‘

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://layer8.space/users/platymew/statuses/116528054213724304https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://layer8.space/users/platymew/statuses/116528054213724304Wed, 06 May 2026 14:16:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 14:08:09 GMT]]>@jaffathecake There's a serious question to be asked about whether an engine shipping things which the broader standards community is opposed to can still be considered a standards compliant browser.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Schouten_B/statuses/116528020792347450https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Schouten_B/statuses/116528020792347450Wed, 06 May 2026 14:08:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 14:03:02 GMT]]>@platymew @jaffathecake MLA and Chicago Manual of Style agree with what I did, at least: https://grammarist.com/punctuation/apostrophe-after-s-rules-and-examples/

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/yoasif/statuses/116528000716348814https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/yoasif/statuses/116528000716348814Wed, 06 May 2026 14:03:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 13:55:00 GMT]]>@yoasif @jaffathecake If the word ends in an s-like phoneme, you're supposed to eschew the s after the apostrophe.

E.g. For Fox' sake! ๐Ÿ˜‰

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://layer8.space/users/platymew/statuses/116527969107778442https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://layer8.space/users/platymew/statuses/116527969107778442Wed, 06 May 2026 13:55:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 13:19:52 GMT]]>@jaffathecake @joshhunt

(and obviously Mozilla follows suit, because why are they there if not to suck up to the bully)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sociale.network/users/oblomov/statuses/116527830957352821https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sociale.network/users/oblomov/statuses/116527830957352821Wed, 06 May 2026 13:19:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 13:15:54 GMT]]>@jaffathecake @joshhunt it's like the XSLT situation in reverse

Google: we want to drop XSLT support

web developers: we really want you to keep XSLT and possibly upgrade support for v3 of the standard so we can use it with JSON too

Google: OK, we've listened to everybody's opinion and nobody wants XSLT so we're dropping it.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sociale.network/users/oblomov/statuses/116527815377848446https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sociale.network/users/oblomov/statuses/116527815377848446Wed, 06 May 2026 13:15:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 13:06:34 GMT]]>@jaffathecake internet explorer from its grave.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://vmst.io/users/maikel/statuses/116527778637791637https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://vmst.io/users/maikel/statuses/116527778637791637Wed, 06 May 2026 13:06:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 12:59:10 GMT]]>@jaffathecake Sounds kind of like how pushed ahead with even after your lying polls about the provenance of training data in translations and the multitude of negative comments here and on Mozilla Connect.

Pretty good blind spot for Mozilla - you can only tell when things are bad when your competitors do it.

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/yoasif/statuses/116527749588195600https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/yoasif/statuses/116527749588195600Wed, 06 May 2026 12:59:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 12:37:14 GMT]]>@nachtfunke @jaffathecake oh that's easy developers needed to keep using and supporting Firefox because open internet matters more than anything else.

Sadly, majority of developers failed at that, just like they did with Internet Exploder.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/ragectl/statuses/116527663310632774https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/ragectl/statuses/116527663310632774Wed, 06 May 2026 12:37:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 12:30:18 GMT]]>@jaffathecake

Google is on the boycott list.
Theyโ€™re too big for anyoneโ€™s good & are tied in with the two governments that care more about big brother surveillance and holy wars than their people.

I like ecosia (they plant trees for each search)
Brave and Firefox are cool too

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116511550195516456/statuses/116527636033515838https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116511550195516456/statuses/116527636033515838Wed, 06 May 2026 12:30:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 12:26:18 GMT]]>@jaffathecake

Given the other shit that Google is shipping the moment, their browser won't be going onto any system that doesn't absolutely need it.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/simonzerafa/statuses/116527620315329179https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/simonzerafa/statuses/116527620315329179Wed, 06 May 2026 12:26:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 12:24:22 GMT]]>@phl @jaffathecake @nachtfunke

Ya know they say threes a crowd ๐Ÿ˜…

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116511550195516456/statuses/116527612748281348https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116511550195516456/statuses/116527612748281348Wed, 06 May 2026 12:24:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 12:21:09 GMT]]>@jaffathecake Internal politics trumps external reactions every time.

I am currently using waterfox, a Clean fork of Firefox ( no AI features, kill switch or no )

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/lemgandi/statuses/116527600070581392https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/lemgandi/statuses/116527600070581392Wed, 06 May 2026 12:21:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 11:57:41 GMT]]>@jaffathecake
Amazon, Google, Apple, Musk etc show the huge flaw in allowing shares as collateral for loans as "payment" for a takeover, often described as a merger.

Obscene Capitalism.

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Musk is rich by background, luck & stupidity of other people, partly Peter Thiel.

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Paid Tesla to claim he was a founder.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/raymaccarthy/statuses/116527507793892053https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/raymaccarthy/statuses/116527507793892053Wed, 06 May 2026 11:57:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 11:57:14 GMT]]>@bit I switched to it last year and not had any issues.ย  It's a great alternative if your tired of all the nonsense Chrome keeps rolling out.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://beige.party/users/TheStoneDonkey/statuses/116527506027499661https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://beige.party/users/TheStoneDonkey/statuses/116527506027499661Wed, 06 May 2026 11:57:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 11:50:43 GMT]]>@jaffathecake

Alternatives are available.
https://www.firefox.com

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/bit/statuses/116527480384594370https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/bit/statuses/116527480384594370Wed, 06 May 2026 11:50:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 11:49:12 GMT]]>@joshhunt if there is then they failed to show it. They posted a couple of links, including a survey about something else.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jaffathecake/statuses/116527474422141357https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jaffathecake/statuses/116527474422141357Wed, 06 May 2026 11:49:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 11:45:21 GMT]]>@jaffathecake I've been saying chrome is the new ie for years...

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116489873091924772/statuses/116527459312615209https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116489873091924772/statuses/116527459312615209Wed, 06 May 2026 11:45:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 11:44:02 GMT]]>@jaffathecake agents in your very browsers

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dozymoe/statuses/116527454145208306https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dozymoe/statuses/116527454145208306Wed, 06 May 2026 11:44:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 11:42:13 GMT]]>@jaffathecake Maybe there's some definition of "developers" in the spec process, but I think it is problematic to consider "developers" to be one giant mass.

I agree with you - this is a bad API. But especially given the topic, I think this process self-selects for the most vocal, and I can imagine there are loads of developers out there that are genuinely supportive of an API like this.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/joshhunt/statuses/116527446984407377https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/joshhunt/statuses/116527446984407377Wed, 06 May 2026 11:42:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 11:37:05 GMT]]>@jaffathecake
Google / Alphabet needs to have Android & Chrome divested from them and them kicked out of everything.

They are an Advertising agency that cares nothing about local laws or people.
Somel finance from Eric Schmidt, who was CEO for a while. Hides from public eye and hardly mentioned in history of Google. He turned it into an advertising agency fuelled by surveillance.
Google Analytics and Recaptcha are evil tools they use that no-one should deploy, or any other Google service.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/raymaccarthy/statuses/116527426774396911https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/raymaccarthy/statuses/116527426774396911Wed, 06 May 2026 11:37:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API: on Wed, 06 May 2026 11:18:05 GMT]]>@jaffathecake @nachtfunke I loved that one when I read it the other day ๐Ÿ˜„ The strongly supportive was one comment in a github issue, a blog that doesn't exist anymore, and another blog post. Overwhelming interest, overwhelming support! ๐Ÿ˜„

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/phl/statuses/116527352115913811https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/phl/statuses/116527352115913811Wed, 06 May 2026 11:18:05 GMT