So, Chrome's "web standard" Prompt API:

[jaffathecake@mastodon.social]

@nachtfunke oh, Google had you all down as "strongly supportive" https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/iR6R7-nQeHI/m/gN4iEGEdAQAJ

[jsnkuhn@mastodon.social]

@nachtfunke @jaffathecake Not sure if this really matters at this point either but there is a web-platform-dx/developer-signals repo for this that few seem to be aware of. Maybe this is a better place to be collecting general developer sentiment: https://github.com/web-platform-dx/developer-signals/issues/556

[nachtfunke@indieweb.social]

@jaffathecake Honestly, maybe the reality is just that we developers nowadays are positioned too much by business practices that the majority is indeed strongly supportive. I don’t know anymore.

I am tired of this all. When you’re sounding the alarm early you’re being negative and when you criticize it when it’s a manifest problem then you’re being called complicit.

I don’t know anymore. Im a modern Luddite at this point

[lukew@toot.wales]

@nachtfunke @jaffathecake I think the big power developers do still hold is to just not use this API. The web isn't cast in stone (as much as people may think it is), if the usage stays low enough there's a chance it might unship in years to come, or at least go through changes to make others more onboard (idk if that's feasible here though).

[af@cas.social]

@nachtfunke @jaffathecake
My conclusion from the earlier browser wars: history unfortunately repeats itself, and too much market dominance is harmful to platform-independent web standards.

[nachtfunke@indieweb.social]

@af yes indeed. I would argue that market dynamics shouldn't have any influence on the infrastructure of modern human connection.

[phl@mastodon.social]

@jaffathecake @nachtfunke I loved that one when I read it the other day The strongly supportive was one comment in a github issue, a blog that doesn't exist anymore, and another blog post. Overwhelming interest, overwhelming support!

[raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie]

@jaffathecake
Google / Alphabet needs to have Android & Chrome divested from them and them kicked out of everything.

They are an Advertising agency that cares nothing about local laws or people.
Somel finance from Eric Schmidt, who was CEO for a while. Hides from public eye and hardly mentioned in history of Google. He turned it into an advertising agency fuelled by surveillance.
Google Analytics and Recaptcha are evil tools they use that no-one should deploy, or any other Google service.

[joshhunt@hachyderm.io]

@jaffathecake Maybe there's some definition of "developers" in the spec process, but I think it is problematic to consider "developers" to be one giant mass.

I agree with you - this is a bad API. But especially given the topic, I think this process self-selects for the most vocal, and I can imagine there are loads of developers out there that are genuinely supportive of an API like this.

[dozymoe@mastodon.social]

@jaffathecake agents in your very browsers

[clutch_lever@mastodon.social]

@jaffathecake I've been saying chrome is the new ie for years...

[jaffathecake@mastodon.social]

@joshhunt if there is then they failed to show it. They posted a couple of links, including a survey about something else.

[bit@ohai.social]

@jaffathecake

Alternatives are available.
https://www.firefox.com

[thestonedonkey@beige.party]

@bit I switched to it last year and not had any issues.  It's a great alternative if your tired of all the nonsense Chrome keeps rolling out.

[raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie]

@jaffathecake
Amazon, Google, Apple, Musk etc show the huge flaw in allowing shares as collateral for loans as "payment" for a takeover, often described as a merger.

Obscene Capitalism.

List of mergers and acquisitions by Amazon - Wikipedia

(en.wikipedia.org)

List of mergers and acquisitions by Alphabet - Wikipedia

(en.wikipedia.org)

List of mergers and acquisitions by Apple - Wikipedia

(en.wikipedia.org)

Musk is rich by background, luck & stupidity of other people, partly Peter Thiel.

Business career of Elon Musk - Wikipedia

(en.wikipedia.org)

Paid Tesla to claim he was a founder.

[lemgandi@mastodon.social]

@jaffathecake Internal politics trumps external reactions every time.

I am currently using waterfox, a Clean fork of Firefox ( no AI features, kill switch or no )

[thecatburgler@mastodon.social]

@phl @jaffathecake @nachtfunke

Ya know they say threes a crowd

[simonzerafa@infosec.exchange]

@jaffathecake

Given the other shit that Google is shipping the moment, their browser won't be going onto any system that doesn't absolutely need it.

[thecatburgler@mastodon.social]

@jaffathecake

Google is on the boycott list.
They’re too big for anyone’s good & are tied in with the two governments that care more about big brother surveillance and holy wars than their people.

I like ecosia (they plant trees for each search)
Brave and Firefox are cool too

[ragectl@hachyderm.io]

@nachtfunke @jaffathecake oh that's easy developers needed to keep using and supporting Firefox because open internet matters more than anything else.

Sadly, majority of developers failed at that, just like they did with Internet Exploder.