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Today the European Commission is publishing the #PassengerPackage - legislation to fix railway ticketing

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  • wrzlbrnft@troet.cafeW wrzlbrnft@troet.cafe

    @jon Have you already found a part in which is written that a OSDM purchase might not necessarily considered as a single commercial transaction?

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    @wrzlbrnft I think one purchase transaction, purchasing multiple tickets via OSDM, is *included* and covered.

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      Basically in this #PassengerPackage the Commission seems to have in mind someone who takes a train once a year on holiday, not people who ever do this even semi regularly.

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      We're now talking about airlines in the press conference 🤷‍♂️ #PassengerPackage

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Basically in this #PassengerPackage the Commission seems to have in mind someone who takes a train once a year on holiday, not people who ever do this even semi regularly.

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        @jon SNCF is going to find a loophole to just make it impossible to use the "one ticketing transaction" for their trains nevertheless.

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          We're now talking about airlines in the press conference 🤷‍♂️ #PassengerPackage

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          This is a total dog's dinner #PassengerPackage

          Regulation PDF: https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/a3284ec0-f1ad-4ee4-a558-5d4c17948046_en?filename=COM_2026_232_Proposal_on_rail_ticketing.pdf

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            We're now talking about airlines in the press conference 🤷‍♂️ #PassengerPackage

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            @jon If they really want to go this way, they should include long-distance buses too.

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              This is a total dog's dinner #PassengerPackage

              Regulation PDF: https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/a3284ec0-f1ad-4ee4-a558-5d4c17948046_en?filename=COM_2026_232_Proposal_on_rail_ticketing.pdf

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              @jon@gruene.social five months? Good luck getting that through lol

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                This is a total dog's dinner #PassengerPackage

                Regulation PDF: https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/a3284ec0-f1ad-4ee4-a558-5d4c17948046_en?filename=COM_2026_232_Proposal_on_rail_ticketing.pdf

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                Reminder: this is just the Commission proposal for the #PassengerPackage

                It has to go to the EP and the Council from here

                There is ZERO CHANCE it's going to not going to be amended!

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Reminder: this is just the Commission proposal for the #PassengerPackage

                  It has to go to the EP and the Council from here

                  There is ZERO CHANCE it's going to not going to be amended!

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                  @jon@gruene.social "no additional technical burdens" lololololol

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                  • wrzlbrnft@troet.cafeW wrzlbrnft@troet.cafe

                    @jon If they really want to go this way, they should include long-distance buses too.

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                    @wrzlbrnft That might be part covered in the third part of the package (on MDMS)

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Reminder: this is just the Commission proposal for the #PassengerPackage

                      It has to go to the EP and the Council from here

                      There is ZERO CHANCE it's going to not going to be amended!

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                      "This proposal is 100% pragmatic" says Tzitzikostas. WTF? No! #PassengerPackage

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        "This proposal is 100% pragmatic" says Tzitzikostas. WTF? No! #PassengerPackage

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                        Screaming. Screaming! NOOOOO #PassengerPackage

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          This is not going to work. #PassengerPackage

                          There is a SINGLE TRANSACTION obligation to get rights - see https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/fc019827-59c9-400f-a530-4d7d21957a7d_en?filename=COM_2026_233_Proposal_on_the_protection_of_passengers_with_single_tickets.pdf

                          BUT that means that IF you have some ticket already - a Klimaticket for example - and want to add something on to that, you are left without rights

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                          @jon Or if you get stuck somewhere & unexpectedly have to buy a ticket say on a different service.

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