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Today the European Commission is publishing the #PassengerPackage - legislation to fix railway ticketing

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    Here are the documents: https://transport.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/one-journey-one-ticket-full-rights-commission-simplifies-europe-wide-travel-booking-and-train-travel-2026-05-13_en #PassengerPackage

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    "Our vision is very clear," says Tzitzikostas. "One journey, one ticket!"

    If only it were to work like that πŸ˜€

    #PassengerPackage

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      "Our vision is very clear," says Tzitzikostas. "One journey, one ticket!"

      If only it were to work like that πŸ˜€

      #PassengerPackage

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      Noooooooo, ah what he is saying is not what the Regulation says, not clearly anyway. #PassengerPackage

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Noooooooo, ah what he is saying is not what the Regulation says, not clearly anyway. #PassengerPackage

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        NJOOOOOOAOOAOOAOOAOO #PassengerPackage

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          NJOOOOOOAOOAOOAOOAOO #PassengerPackage

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          #29

          Ah this is such a mess #PassengerPackage

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            Ah this is such a mess #PassengerPackage

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            This is a mess #PassengerPackage

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              This is a mess #PassengerPackage

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              This is not going to work. #PassengerPackage

              There is a SINGLE TRANSACTION obligation to get rights - see https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/fc019827-59c9-400f-a530-4d7d21957a7d_en?filename=COM_2026_233_Proposal_on_the_protection_of_passengers_with_single_tickets.pdf

              BUT that means that IF you have some ticket already - a Klimaticket for example - and want to add something on to that, you are left without rights

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                This is a mess #PassengerPackage

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                @jon Have you already found a part in which is written that a OSDM purchase might not necessarily considered as a single commercial transaction?

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  This is not going to work. #PassengerPackage

                  There is a SINGLE TRANSACTION obligation to get rights - see https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/fc019827-59c9-400f-a530-4d7d21957a7d_en?filename=COM_2026_233_Proposal_on_the_protection_of_passengers_with_single_tickets.pdf

                  BUT that means that IF you have some ticket already - a Klimaticket for example - and want to add something on to that, you are left without rights

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                  Basically in this #PassengerPackage the Commission seems to have in mind someone who takes a train once a year on holiday, not people who ever do this even semi regularly.

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    This is not going to work. #PassengerPackage

                    There is a SINGLE TRANSACTION obligation to get rights - see https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/fc019827-59c9-400f-a530-4d7d21957a7d_en?filename=COM_2026_233_Proposal_on_the_protection_of_passengers_with_single_tickets.pdf

                    BUT that means that IF you have some ticket already - a Klimaticket for example - and want to add something on to that, you are left without rights

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                    @jon Couldn't you just have a 0-cost ticket as part of the full through ticket?

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                    • wrzlbrnft@troet.cafeW wrzlbrnft@troet.cafe

                      @jon Have you already found a part in which is written that a OSDM purchase might not necessarily considered as a single commercial transaction?

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                      @wrzlbrnft I think one purchase transaction, purchasing multiple tickets via OSDM, is *included* and covered.

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        Basically in this #PassengerPackage the Commission seems to have in mind someone who takes a train once a year on holiday, not people who ever do this even semi regularly.

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                        We're now talking about airlines in the press conference πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ #PassengerPackage

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          Basically in this #PassengerPackage the Commission seems to have in mind someone who takes a train once a year on holiday, not people who ever do this even semi regularly.

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                          @jon SNCF is going to find a loophole to just make it impossible to use the "one ticketing transaction" for their trains nevertheless.

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            We're now talking about airlines in the press conference πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ #PassengerPackage

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                            This is a total dog's dinner #PassengerPackage

                            Regulation PDF: https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/a3284ec0-f1ad-4ee4-a558-5d4c17948046_en?filename=COM_2026_232_Proposal_on_rail_ticketing.pdf

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              We're now talking about airlines in the press conference πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ #PassengerPackage

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                              @jon If they really want to go this way, they should include long-distance buses too.

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                This is a total dog's dinner #PassengerPackage

                                Regulation PDF: https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/a3284ec0-f1ad-4ee4-a558-5d4c17948046_en?filename=COM_2026_232_Proposal_on_rail_ticketing.pdf

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                                @jon@gruene.social five months? Good luck getting that through lol

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  This is a total dog's dinner #PassengerPackage

                                  Regulation PDF: https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/a3284ec0-f1ad-4ee4-a558-5d4c17948046_en?filename=COM_2026_232_Proposal_on_rail_ticketing.pdf

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                                  Reminder: this is just the Commission proposal for the #PassengerPackage

                                  It has to go to the EP and the Council from here

                                  There is ZERO CHANCE it's going to not going to be amended!

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    Reminder: this is just the Commission proposal for the #PassengerPackage

                                    It has to go to the EP and the Council from here

                                    There is ZERO CHANCE it's going to not going to be amended!

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                                    @jon@gruene.social "no additional technical burdens" lololololol

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                                    • wrzlbrnft@troet.cafeW wrzlbrnft@troet.cafe

                                      @jon If they really want to go this way, they should include long-distance buses too.

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                                      @wrzlbrnft That might be part covered in the third part of the package (on MDMS)

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        Reminder: this is just the Commission proposal for the #PassengerPackage

                                        It has to go to the EP and the Council from here

                                        There is ZERO CHANCE it's going to not going to be amended!

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                                        "This proposal is 100% pragmatic" says Tzitzikostas. WTF? No! #PassengerPackage

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          "This proposal is 100% pragmatic" says Tzitzikostas. WTF? No! #PassengerPackage

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                                          Screaming. Screaming! NOOOOO #PassengerPackage

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