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Dear app developers,I have never had the desire to review an app.

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  • kishi@meow.socialK kishi@meow.social

    @mattblaze @jernej__s @malwarejake

    Yeah, there is that as well, but at that point, they might as well begin counting "tap away or close" as a positive engagement. Not sure if we're at that point, but right now, everything stupid seems plausible.

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    argentum@mas.to
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    @Kishi @mattblaze @jernej__s @malwarejake that is if your review even stands! I’ve had a couple of reviews taken down for “Violation of Apple Media Services Terms and Conditions”. I think devs report bad reviews to avoid their rating from going down.

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    • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

      Dear app developers,
      I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
      Sincerely,
      Every smartphone user ever

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      #32

      @malwarejake
      > I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more.

      So you are helping the big corpos suffocate small independent app makers. Because reviews are the only way to have a few other people being given a chance to see this app name on their screen. The other way is to shell-out around a half a million dollars for ads and "promotions". App makers beg for reviews, because they are now are unable to outbid scammers.

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      • yugthebug@mastodon.socialY yugthebug@mastodon.social

        @malwarejake
        Hmm, they usually dont ask again if you go into the reviews area and then click cancel, orrrr just give a 1 star review due to their review begging

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        @yugthebug @malwarejake
        THAT would surely be the biggest risk to any incessant app-review reminders. Counter-productive.
        I don't use many apps but I did give #MagicEarth 5*.

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        • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

          Dear app developers,
          I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
          Sincerely,
          Every smartphone user ever

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          #34

          @malwarejake "ask me later"

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          • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

            Dear app developers,
            I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
            Sincerely,
            Every smartphone user ever

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            chetman@hachyderm.io
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            @malwarejake @robpike I absolutely ALWAYS do a review when asked in this fashion.

            It is always a complete excoriation coupled with the lowest star rating available.

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            • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

              Dear app developers,
              I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
              Sincerely,
              Every smartphone user ever

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              gneilyo@mastodon.online
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              #36

              @malwarejake Nag me for a review or a survey if you want some negative feedback

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              • kajer@infosec.exchangeK kajer@infosec.exchange

                @malwarejake until you reinstall for literally any reason, and get mandatory new-user hints and tips and intros and tutorials....

                I have 8000 hours in this program, I'm not a new user damnit.

                references: gestures broadly at ALL SOFTWARE

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                #37

                @kajer not showing any new user hints would require the app to save some data about you and remember that you have used the app before even if you uninstall the app. Would you be fine with this?

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                • barsk@infosec.exchangeB barsk@infosec.exchange

                  @kajer not showing any new user hints would require the app to save some data about you and remember that you have used the app before even if you uninstall the app. Would you be fine with this?

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                  kajer@infosec.exchange
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                  #38

                  @barsk one would think a simple "are you new here? y/n" prompt wold be just fine.

                  OoBE should ALWAYS be optional. Always

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                  • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                    Dear app developers,
                    I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                    Sincerely,
                    Every smartphone user ever

                    merovius@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    merovius@chaos.social
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                    #39

                    @malwarejake @robpike Every time this annoys me, I leave a 1* review – they insisted, after all…

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                    • A argentum@mas.to

                      @Kishi @mattblaze @jernej__s @malwarejake that is if your review even stands! I’ve had a couple of reviews taken down for “Violation of Apple Media Services Terms and Conditions”. I think devs report bad reviews to avoid their rating from going down.

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                      #40

                      @argentum @Kishi @mattblaze @jernej__s @malwarejake don't make the review to bad or hard. Give the app half the stars or points or whatever and note the review function brought you here. After that mention the usual problems of, e.g. package pickup boxes with bluetooth and their apps ...

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                      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                        @malwarejake I'm especially put off by the popups that interrupt me as soon as I open the app. "Do you love the FedEx app?" No, I just want to track my fucking package. And that's a really stalker-y way to ask, frankly.

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                        #41

                        @mattblaze @malwarejake someone observed to me recently that, even though the money to pay for the delivery ultimately came from you, delivery services don’t consider you, the recipient, their paying customer. It really stuck with me how it is a bit of a perverse incentive structure…

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                        • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                          @mattblaze @malwarejake someone observed to me recently that, even though the money to pay for the delivery ultimately came from you, delivery services don’t consider you, the recipient, their paying customer. It really stuck with me how it is a bit of a perverse incentive structure…

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                          @0xabad1dea @mattblaze @malwarejake

                          Ditto for Amazon reviews, or delivery reviews and ratings.

                          The package arrived. They already know this. Why ask me if it was good, bad or indifferent?! 🙄🤷‍♂️

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                          • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                            @malwarejake I'm especially put off by the popups that interrupt me as soon as I open the app. "Do you love the FedEx app?" No, I just want to track my fucking package. And that's a really stalker-y way to ask, frankly.

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                            @mattblaze @malwarejake a little inside baseball: they prompt that way because that popup isn’t the review request. That’s the pre-review request, if you say no it’s all you’ll see, if you say yes they’ll then pop the OS review request dialogue having pre-filtered anyone who was going to leave a bad review. Yes, that’s as shady as it sounds.

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                            • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                              Dear app developers,
                              I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                              Sincerely,
                              Every smartphone user ever

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                              #44

                              @malwarejake @OpinionatedGeek I'm getting to the point of leaving 1 star reviews of "keeps insisting on a review"

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                              • sldrant@mastodon.socialS sldrant@mastodon.social

                                @malwarejake @OpinionatedGeek I'm getting to the point of leaving 1 star reviews of "keeps insisting on a review"

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                                #45

                                @sldrant @malwarejake Funnily enough TrustPilot took down my review of a service where I said much the same thing you said. I gave up trusting TrustPilot after that.

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                                • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                                  Dear app developers,
                                  I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                                  Sincerely,
                                  Every smartphone user ever

                                  standev@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  standev@mstdn.social
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                                  #46

                                  @malwarejake “okay I’ll give you a review but you’re not gonna like it”

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                                  • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                                    Dear app developers,
                                    I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                                    Sincerely,
                                    Every smartphone user ever

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                                    lunarloony@dosgame.club
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                                    #47

                                    @malwarejake On a scale of 0 to 10, how likely are you to recommend [insert SaaS app here] to a friend or colleague?

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                                    • kajer@infosec.exchangeK kajer@infosec.exchange

                                      @barsk one would think a simple "are you new here? y/n" prompt wold be just fine.

                                      OoBE should ALWAYS be optional. Always

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                                      barsk@infosec.exchange
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                                      #48

                                      @kajer an easy way to skip everything is nice.

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                                      • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        ohir@social.vivaldi.net
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                                        #49

                                        @mathew
                                        > Do you read their spam?

                                        Strawman.

                                        I do not _install_ spam messages for the features I want to use on my phone.

                                        @malwarejake

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