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@johannab@cosocial.ca yup that's the tricky part of abandoned and unmanaged instances isn't it. You can't even do right by the users and contact them en masse.

No good solution here.

@blainsmith@fosstodon.org I'm liking activityfit as well

Is that too many syllables?

tivi.fit?

@tchambers@indieweb.social it goes beyond social networks and into communities in general.

Forums, for example, need to reach a critical mass of users before they become self sustaining. Sometimes that number is 5, sometimes it's 500.

Leveraging the built-up fediverse community is a game changing way to get that critical mass much faster.

@ropoko@mastodon.gamedev.place basically, yes.

Although it's going to be hard to ask Mastodon to support every custom object type under the sun.

What's more feasible is better baseline support for unknown object types.

> @jaz@toot.wales said in New from me: Fediverse Report #158 - What is Mastodon for?:
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> It seems holistic and representative of "the Mastodon community" because it happened in /our/ Fediverse, but does it truly reflect a community value?

Yes, because "our" fediverse bleeds through to every one of the other million fediverses, Jaz. That's Laurens' point, I think.

What we need, and what I think you already identified with the Twit (shoot, Tŵt) app are very strong local presence. The local feed should be front and center, with fediverse-wide interactions coming to the forefront only when things escape the local bubble and go viral. A lot of that is UI. Mastodon's UI deliberately blurs the local/federated bubbles in order to chase that "public town square" feel.

It's hard to find the right balance, and as someone who like to think tech can provide the answers, I fear the answer might be that the balance is different for every single community; no one UX can correctly be applied.

cc @fediversereport@mastodon.social

@reiver@mastodon.social I shall be there. Time to start brainstorming topics!

@smallcircles@social.coop those are general terms?

@julian@fietkau.social by "can't handle" do you mean "still reliant on cavage-12"?

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@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe please reach out if you have any trouble! I am just a mention away

@luceos@fosstodon.org

puts bizdev hat back on

Yeeeesss @linc@phpc.social, please add Discourse as a migration source

When we found out what @linc@phpc.social we immediately reached out and hoped to get something worked out. This was a couple years back, around the time I started looking into AP.

Each forum company treats their migration scripts as proprietary product, because it literally gives end users the means to migrate away to competitors. It also means they're usually janky as hell and each company has to come up with their own bespoke migration logic.

My end goal with NodeBB wasn't to destroy my competition (although that'd be a nice side effect), it was to improve the forum UX and encourage adoption of forums as a whole. Up until the 2010s, forums were unequivocally dying as a form of communication. It was an existential rationale!

So Lincoln's work only helps further that goal.

We've been trying to find paying clients to help fund Linc's work (to build out the NodeBB target), but those customers are very far and few between. That's why there hasn't been movement until @nlnet@social.nlnet.nl came in with the Open Social Fund.

cc @benpate@mastodon.social

@evan@cosocial.ca all four, but only for contexts. It's how NodeBB's topic synchronization logic works, although there isn't an FEP for it yet

@evan@cosocial.ca that seems odd, instead of transferring it to you or SWF

Did you get access to the npm package? Or perhaps you'll have to use a scoped package name.

@thisismissem@hachyderm.io hah okay, I'll take notes on omissions I find as well.

@thisismissem@hachyderm.io great, I'm good to implement those. I'll have to take a closer look at the FIRES documentation next week

@thisismissem@hachyderm.io any specific place you want feedback (officially)?

I have no desire for anything more than those 3.

@thisismissem@hachyderm.io have you settled on a list I can code against? iirc we had discussed suspend, filter, and allow. Not sure if the terms have changed since.

@elettrona@poliversity.it I am not well-versed in email technology. I am confused, even today, by what a mail transfer agent (MTA) and mail user agent (MUA) are.

But... I think this is doable.

For example, my handle julian@activitypub.space is only a fediverse handle. I have not set up email on that domain. It is theoretically possible to set up a MUA MTA (gosh I hope I am using that term right nope I did not) to accept the email, and display it to me.

But do I want to blur the lines and have my social media also become my email reader... I am not so sure <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f605.png?v=a2a7da0aec4" title="" />

@thisismissem@hachyderm.io hashtag filtering would be handy. I'm interested in seeing how that will shape up. Apologies for missing the T&S call yesterday.

I noted in my third-party blocklist implementation that IFTAS DNI and AUD lists classify entries as silence or suspend. I am assuming that these are expanded in FIRES with a couple additional items?

I may be mis-remembering from our talk a couple months back <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=a2a7da0aec4" title="" />

@mmccue.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gy oh, interesting... I never really got into Surf, but I think this sort of polished UX is crucial to getting non-techies onto the fediverse.