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We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

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  • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

    We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

    Left-wing politicians who:
    ✅ Nail social media
    ✅ Challenge the establishment
    ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

    Who stands out in your country?

    vero@pmth.usV This user is from outside of this forum
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    @europeanspodcast@mastodon.social rob jetten

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    • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

      Instant thought: Emmanuel Macron. The perfect 'could be your neighbour' anti-establishment man. And he's very much online.

      anyway. Not left 😉

      From what I understand Mamdani's policies are not easily comparable to a traditional 'left wing' European platform.
      As a person he walks a fine line between populism and rather wholesome 'personalised leadership'.

      I think the left in my countries (Denmark, Netherlands) simply doesn't have people like this at the moment.

      @europeanspodcast

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      @Pepijn @europeanspodcast no European politician would come close. Because anyone with those skills that Mamdani has (as does AOC) would be spat out by a European political party right away.

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        @Pepijn @europeanspodcast no European politician would come close. Because anyone with those skills that Mamdani has (as does AOC) would be spat out by a European political party right away.

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        Ah. I only now realise I replied to the question as if it was about national politics instead of European politics.

        Agreed. On a European level I don't see someone with this large a personality and openness be allowed to go far.

        @jon @europeanspodcast

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        • iwein@mas.toI iwein@mas.to

          @europeanspodcast one Dutch example is @estherouwehand of @PartijvoordeDieren

          I wish they'd get their social media ethics right though.

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          @iwein @europeanspodcast @estherouwehand cc @PartijvoordeDieren@mastodon.social

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          • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

            We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

            Left-wing politicians who:
            ✅ Nail social media
            ✅ Challenge the establishment
            ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

            Who stands out in your country?

            a_denie@toot.ioA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @europeanspodcast not in my country, but I hear good things about (and from) Zach Polanski?

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            • a_denie@toot.ioA a_denie@toot.io

              @europeanspodcast not in my country, but I hear good things about (and from) Zach Polanski?

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              @A_denie @europeanspodcast yes, Zack is great

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              • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                Ah. I only now realise I replied to the question as if it was about national politics instead of European politics.

                Agreed. On a European level I don't see someone with this large a personality and openness be allowed to go far.

                @jon @europeanspodcast

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                @Pepijn @jon @europeanspodcast Perhaps Alexander Stubb?

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                • sorenhave@mastodon.nuS sorenhave@mastodon.nu

                  @Pepijn @jon @europeanspodcast Perhaps Alexander Stubb?

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                  @sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    @sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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                    @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast Not nearly as visible and of course not 1:1 the same, but I can think of Yanis Varoufakis, as a comparable character.

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                    • tshirtman@mas.toT tshirtman@mas.to

                      @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast Not nearly as visible and of course not 1:1 the same, but I can think of Yanis Varoufakis, as a comparable character.

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                      @tshirtman Somewhat, although his ability to deliver burned out very fast. But he did at least get - briefly! - to the top! @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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                      • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                        We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

                        Left-wing politicians who:
                        ✅ Nail social media
                        ✅ Challenge the establishment
                        ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

                        Who stands out in your country?

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                        bytesalat@norden.social
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                        @europeanspodcast
                        edit: Wait.. Were you explicitly asking for MEPs from the respective countries or politicians in general?

                        German politician Heidi Reichinnek from Die Linke ("The Left") springs to my mind.
                        https://heidi-reichinnek.de/

                        Her social media activity and empassioned speech against far-right encroachment have ensured that her party not only remained in the German parliament during the last election, but also almost doubled their share (5% ↗️ 9%) when everybody expected them to lose.

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                        • B bytesalat@norden.social

                          @europeanspodcast
                          edit: Wait.. Were you explicitly asking for MEPs from the respective countries or politicians in general?

                          German politician Heidi Reichinnek from Die Linke ("The Left") springs to my mind.
                          https://heidi-reichinnek.de/

                          Her social media activity and empassioned speech against far-right encroachment have ensured that her party not only remained in the German parliament during the last election, but also almost doubled their share (5% ↗️ 9%) when everybody expected them to lose.

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                          @bytesalat Politicians in general - can by MEPs but actually was thinking more on the national level.

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            @sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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                            @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn Stubb is also a former guest on the Europeans podcast- a left-field Mamdani-style media appearance 😉

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                            • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                              @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn Stubb is also a former guest on the Europeans podcast- a left-field Mamdani-style media appearance 😉

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                              @europeanspodcast @sorenhave @Pepijn This conversation reminds me of when I used to run digital communications training for politicians, and a guy from the Greek PASOK party asked me "but why do we not have an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in our party?" and I had to curtly tell him that such a person would not get anywhere in such a party!

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                @europeanspodcast @sorenhave @Pepijn This conversation reminds me of when I used to run digital communications training for politicians, and a guy from the Greek PASOK party asked me "but why do we not have an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in our party?" and I had to curtly tell him that such a person would not get anywhere in such a party!

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                                @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn I think it has something to do with the proportional representation voting systems in so much of the continent that create such a huge spread of parties. The UK is the most obvious country where AOC/Mamdani/Sanders-esque candidates have emerged, and I think that's partly because of FPTP.

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                                • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                                  @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn I think it has something to do with the proportional representation voting systems in so much of the continent that create such a huge spread of parties. The UK is the most obvious country where AOC/Mamdani/Sanders-esque candidates have emerged, and I think that's partly because of FPTP.

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                                  @europeanspodcast @sorenhave @Pepijn But it *ought* to be possible in countries with mixed systems that are part constituency. And the UK has parties that drain the life from people really badly as well (I knew Chuka Umunna since he was 21, and what happened to him as a person was grim)

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                                  • sanityinc@hachyderm.ioS sanityinc@hachyderm.io

                                    @A_denie @europeanspodcast yes, Zack is great

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                                    @sanityinc @europeanspodcast oh man, this turned out to be a well-timed toot

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                                    • a_denie@toot.ioA a_denie@toot.io

                                      @sanityinc @europeanspodcast oh man, this turned out to be a well-timed toot

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                                      @A_denie @europeanspodcast Oh! Yes!

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                                      • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                                        We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

                                        Left-wing politicians who:
                                        ✅ Nail social media
                                        ✅ Challenge the establishment
                                        ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

                                        Who stands out in your country?

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                                        @europeanspodcast For Germany you might want Heidi Reichinnek

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                                        • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                                          We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

                                          Left-wing politicians who:
                                          ✅ Nail social media
                                          ✅ Challenge the establishment
                                          ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

                                          Who stands out in your country?

                                          meuwese@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @europeanspodcast great question! @LisaWesterveld and @barbarakathmann come to mind. They are also active here, and both really know how to make effective social media posts.

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