We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?
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@Pepijn @jon @europeanspodcast Perhaps Alexander Stubb?
@sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast
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@sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast
@jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast Not nearly as visible and of course not 1:1 the same, but I can think of Yanis Varoufakis, as a comparable character.
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@jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast Not nearly as visible and of course not 1:1 the same, but I can think of Yanis Varoufakis, as a comparable character.
@tshirtman Somewhat, although his ability to deliver burned out very fast. But he did at least get - briefly! - to the top! @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast
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We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?
Left-wing politicians who:
Nail social media Challenge the establishment Speak to everyday strugglesWho stands out in your country?
@europeanspodcast
edit: Wait.. Were you explicitly asking for MEPs from the respective countries or politicians in general?German politician Heidi Reichinnek from Die Linke ("The Left") springs to my mind.
https://heidi-reichinnek.de/Her social media activity and empassioned speech against far-right encroachment have ensured that her party not only remained in the German parliament during the last election, but also almost doubled their share (5%
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edit: Wait.. Were you explicitly asking for MEPs from the respective countries or politicians in general?German politician Heidi Reichinnek from Die Linke ("The Left") springs to my mind.
https://heidi-reichinnek.de/Her social media activity and empassioned speech against far-right encroachment have ensured that her party not only remained in the German parliament during the last election, but also almost doubled their share (5%
️ 9%) when everybody expected them to lose.@bytesalat Politicians in general - can by MEPs but actually was thinking more on the national level.
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@sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast
@jon @sorenhave @Pepijn Stubb is also a former guest on the Europeans podcast- a left-field Mamdani-style media appearance
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@jon @sorenhave @Pepijn Stubb is also a former guest on the Europeans podcast- a left-field Mamdani-style media appearance
@europeanspodcast @sorenhave @Pepijn This conversation reminds me of when I used to run digital communications training for politicians, and a guy from the Greek PASOK party asked me "but why do we not have an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in our party?" and I had to curtly tell him that such a person would not get anywhere in such a party!
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@europeanspodcast @sorenhave @Pepijn This conversation reminds me of when I used to run digital communications training for politicians, and a guy from the Greek PASOK party asked me "but why do we not have an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in our party?" and I had to curtly tell him that such a person would not get anywhere in such a party!
@jon @sorenhave @Pepijn I think it has something to do with the proportional representation voting systems in so much of the continent that create such a huge spread of parties. The UK is the most obvious country where AOC/Mamdani/Sanders-esque candidates have emerged, and I think that's partly because of FPTP.
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@jon @sorenhave @Pepijn I think it has something to do with the proportional representation voting systems in so much of the continent that create such a huge spread of parties. The UK is the most obvious country where AOC/Mamdani/Sanders-esque candidates have emerged, and I think that's partly because of FPTP.
@europeanspodcast @sorenhave @Pepijn But it *ought* to be possible in countries with mixed systems that are part constituency. And the UK has parties that drain the life from people really badly as well (I knew Chuka Umunna since he was 21, and what happened to him as a person was grim)
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@A_denie @europeanspodcast yes, Zack is great
@sanityinc @europeanspodcast oh man, this turned out to be a well-timed toot
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@sanityinc @europeanspodcast oh man, this turned out to be a well-timed toot
@A_denie @europeanspodcast Oh! Yes!
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We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?
Left-wing politicians who:
Nail social media Challenge the establishment Speak to everyday strugglesWho stands out in your country?
@europeanspodcast For Germany you might want Heidi Reichinnek
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We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?
Left-wing politicians who:
Nail social media Challenge the establishment Speak to everyday strugglesWho stands out in your country?
@europeanspodcast great question! @LisaWesterveld and @barbarakathmann come to mind. They are also active here, and both really know how to make effective social media posts.
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We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?
Left-wing politicians who:
Nail social media Challenge the establishment Speak to everyday strugglesWho stands out in your country?
@europeanspodcast Heidi Reichinnek
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We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?
Left-wing politicians who:
Nail social media Challenge the establishment Speak to everyday strugglesWho stands out in your country?
@europeanspodcast Ferat Koçak of Berlin
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@sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast
@jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast hell no Stubb. He is a right wing politician. Li Andersson would fit much closer to description.
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@jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast hell no Stubb. He is a right wing politician. Li Andersson would fit much closer to description.
@timitii @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast yes, love from Finland to Li Andersson, she's awesome.
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@sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast
@jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast
What? No, absolutely not. Stubb is an epitome of no substance, no morals, no personal integrity liberalism. There is nothing left-wing about him.
His background is comfortably elite and he has never shown any understanding of every day struggles of any working people. The only thing he challenges are his own personal sport results.
But I guess he does the social media pretty well if someone actually thinks otherwise.
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@jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast
What? No, absolutely not. Stubb is an epitome of no substance, no morals, no personal integrity liberalism. There is nothing left-wing about him.
His background is comfortably elite and he has never shown any understanding of every day struggles of any working people. The only thing he challenges are his own personal sport results.
But I guess he does the social media pretty well if someone actually thinks otherwise.
Stubb is also actively enabling Finland’s current far-right* government who are dismantling every single thing that you may think Finland has going for it. Stubb is doing exactly nothing, despite constant racism and even pedophilia scandals.
* = technically the government is run by Stubb’s right-wing Kokoomus party, but they invited the far-right and allow them to do anything they want just to push the neoliberal agenda.
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Stubb is also actively enabling Finland’s current far-right* government who are dismantling every single thing that you may think Finland has going for it. Stubb is doing exactly nothing, despite constant racism and even pedophilia scandals.
* = technically the government is run by Stubb’s right-wing Kokoomus party, but they invited the far-right and allow them to do anything they want just to push the neoliberal agenda.
@hiljaisuus @jon @europeanspodcast actually, in Europe there is no “Mamandi” or AOC. Not because we are too right, but more about because our politics are not tied to two overgrown parties, that are more about oligarchy (both sides, power of the few elites, choose from the lesser evil, but vote like your family has reached). Instead we have actual democracy* with 5-10 parties from far-right to far-left, therefore there is no single radical person to shake the field (like Mamandi, AOC or Sanders). On the country level we have some party leads, who fulfill that role, but not in European level.
And yes, sadly there is some bad movements in Europe too, towards this, but it is still pretty far a way from the dying democracy you have there behind the pond. And that turnboil might actually push us back to unifying democratic Europe instead of populistic splintery there has been since brexit and MAGA (as now we see, at what those lead to).
Main problem we still have here is technical dept to Silicon Valley and hanging on the late western greatness, also known as 90’s USA. But on the other hand, we are also already started to move away (a bit too late) from that dying nation and towards China, which is future leader of global economics. Also, we have started to build up sovereignty of our own. Only hoping, that your countries break won’t cause a global war, just a small civil one.
So, I don’t think, we actually need a single “strong” leader in here Europe (we actually have our bunch of bad “great” leaders in the past, which we don’t want to repeat). Our strength is in real over the parties (and countries) co-operation and it will hopefully also save us, from the crash of the US (both financial and technical).
*) Multiparty system parliament (optimal 5 or more) force the co-op and dialogue between different views. When you have only two, you end up situation of Power of the strongest, tyranny of the weakest, which for my Yankee friends, is extremely close to move to dictatorship there just now. All it needed was a little push from a “friendly“ neighbour and some power hungry lunatics. But I have big wishes your midterms doesn’t not end in beginning of the civil war to nullify “bad” result.
