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We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

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  • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

    Ah. I only now realise I replied to the question as if it was about national politics instead of European politics.

    Agreed. On a European level I don't see someone with this large a personality and openness be allowed to go far.

    @jon @europeanspodcast

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    @Pepijn @jon @europeanspodcast Perhaps Alexander Stubb?

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    • sorenhave@mastodon.nuS sorenhave@mastodon.nu

      @Pepijn @jon @europeanspodcast Perhaps Alexander Stubb?

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      @sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        @sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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        @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast Not nearly as visible and of course not 1:1 the same, but I can think of Yanis Varoufakis, as a comparable character.

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        • tshirtman@mas.toT tshirtman@mas.to

          @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast Not nearly as visible and of course not 1:1 the same, but I can think of Yanis Varoufakis, as a comparable character.

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          @tshirtman Somewhat, although his ability to deliver burned out very fast. But he did at least get - briefly! - to the top! @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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          • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

            We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

            Left-wing politicians who:
            ✅ Nail social media
            ✅ Challenge the establishment
            ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

            Who stands out in your country?

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            @europeanspodcast
            edit: Wait.. Were you explicitly asking for MEPs from the respective countries or politicians in general?

            German politician Heidi Reichinnek from Die Linke ("The Left") springs to my mind.
            https://heidi-reichinnek.de/

            Her social media activity and empassioned speech against far-right encroachment have ensured that her party not only remained in the German parliament during the last election, but also almost doubled their share (5% ↗️ 9%) when everybody expected them to lose.

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              @europeanspodcast
              edit: Wait.. Were you explicitly asking for MEPs from the respective countries or politicians in general?

              German politician Heidi Reichinnek from Die Linke ("The Left") springs to my mind.
              https://heidi-reichinnek.de/

              Her social media activity and empassioned speech against far-right encroachment have ensured that her party not only remained in the German parliament during the last election, but also almost doubled their share (5% ↗️ 9%) when everybody expected them to lose.

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              @bytesalat Politicians in general - can by MEPs but actually was thinking more on the national level.

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                @sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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                @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn Stubb is also a former guest on the Europeans podcast- a left-field Mamdani-style media appearance 😉

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                • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                  @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn Stubb is also a former guest on the Europeans podcast- a left-field Mamdani-style media appearance 😉

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                  @europeanspodcast @sorenhave @Pepijn This conversation reminds me of when I used to run digital communications training for politicians, and a guy from the Greek PASOK party asked me "but why do we not have an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in our party?" and I had to curtly tell him that such a person would not get anywhere in such a party!

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    @europeanspodcast @sorenhave @Pepijn This conversation reminds me of when I used to run digital communications training for politicians, and a guy from the Greek PASOK party asked me "but why do we not have an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in our party?" and I had to curtly tell him that such a person would not get anywhere in such a party!

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                    @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn I think it has something to do with the proportional representation voting systems in so much of the continent that create such a huge spread of parties. The UK is the most obvious country where AOC/Mamdani/Sanders-esque candidates have emerged, and I think that's partly because of FPTP.

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                    • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                      @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn I think it has something to do with the proportional representation voting systems in so much of the continent that create such a huge spread of parties. The UK is the most obvious country where AOC/Mamdani/Sanders-esque candidates have emerged, and I think that's partly because of FPTP.

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                      @europeanspodcast @sorenhave @Pepijn But it *ought* to be possible in countries with mixed systems that are part constituency. And the UK has parties that drain the life from people really badly as well (I knew Chuka Umunna since he was 21, and what happened to him as a person was grim)

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                      • sanityinc@hachyderm.ioS sanityinc@hachyderm.io

                        @A_denie @europeanspodcast yes, Zack is great

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                        @sanityinc @europeanspodcast oh man, this turned out to be a well-timed toot

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                        • a_denie@toot.ioA a_denie@toot.io

                          @sanityinc @europeanspodcast oh man, this turned out to be a well-timed toot

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                          @A_denie @europeanspodcast Oh! Yes!

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                          • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                            We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

                            Left-wing politicians who:
                            ✅ Nail social media
                            ✅ Challenge the establishment
                            ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

                            Who stands out in your country?

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                            @europeanspodcast For Germany you might want Heidi Reichinnek

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                            • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                              We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

                              Left-wing politicians who:
                              ✅ Nail social media
                              ✅ Challenge the establishment
                              ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

                              Who stands out in your country?

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                              @europeanspodcast great question! @LisaWesterveld and @barbarakathmann come to mind. They are also active here, and both really know how to make effective social media posts.

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                              • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                                We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

                                Left-wing politicians who:
                                ✅ Nail social media
                                ✅ Challenge the establishment
                                ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

                                Who stands out in your country?

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                                @europeanspodcast Heidi Reichinnek

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                                • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                                  We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

                                  Left-wing politicians who:
                                  ✅ Nail social media
                                  ✅ Challenge the establishment
                                  ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

                                  Who stands out in your country?

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                                  @europeanspodcast Ferat Koçak of Berlin

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    @sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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                                    @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast hell no Stubb. He is a right wing politician. Li Andersson would fit much closer to description.

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                                      @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast hell no Stubb. He is a right wing politician. Li Andersson would fit much closer to description.

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                                      @timitii @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast yes, love from Finland to Li Andersson, she's awesome.

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        @sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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                                        @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

                                        What? No, absolutely not. Stubb is an epitome of no substance, no morals, no personal integrity liberalism. There is nothing left-wing about him.

                                        His background is comfortably elite and he has never shown any understanding of every day struggles of any working people. The only thing he challenges are his own personal sport results.

                                        But I guess he does the social media pretty well if someone actually thinks otherwise.

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                                        • hiljaisuus@piipitin.fiH hiljaisuus@piipitin.fi

                                          @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

                                          What? No, absolutely not. Stubb is an epitome of no substance, no morals, no personal integrity liberalism. There is nothing left-wing about him.

                                          His background is comfortably elite and he has never shown any understanding of every day struggles of any working people. The only thing he challenges are his own personal sport results.

                                          But I guess he does the social media pretty well if someone actually thinks otherwise.

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                                          @jon @europeanspodcast

                                          Stubb is also actively enabling Finland’s current far-right* government who are dismantling every single thing that you may think Finland has going for it. Stubb is doing exactly nothing, despite constant racism and even pedophilia scandals.

                                          * = technically the government is run by Stubb’s right-wing Kokoomus party, but they invited the far-right and allow them to do anything they want just to push the neoliberal agenda.

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