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We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    @Pepijn @europeanspodcast no European politician would come close. Because anyone with those skills that Mamdani has (as does AOC) would be spat out by a European political party right away.

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    Ah. I only now realise I replied to the question as if it was about national politics instead of European politics.

    Agreed. On a European level I don't see someone with this large a personality and openness be allowed to go far.

    @jon @europeanspodcast

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    • iwein@mas.toI iwein@mas.to

      @europeanspodcast one Dutch example is @estherouwehand of @PartijvoordeDieren

      I wish they'd get their social media ethics right though.

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      @iwein @europeanspodcast @estherouwehand cc @PartijvoordeDieren@mastodon.social

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      • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

        We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

        Left-wing politicians who:
        ✅ Nail social media
        ✅ Challenge the establishment
        ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

        Who stands out in your country?

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        @europeanspodcast not in my country, but I hear good things about (and from) Zach Polanski?

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        • a_denie@toot.ioA a_denie@toot.io

          @europeanspodcast not in my country, but I hear good things about (and from) Zach Polanski?

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          @A_denie @europeanspodcast yes, Zack is great

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          • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

            Ah. I only now realise I replied to the question as if it was about national politics instead of European politics.

            Agreed. On a European level I don't see someone with this large a personality and openness be allowed to go far.

            @jon @europeanspodcast

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            @Pepijn @jon @europeanspodcast Perhaps Alexander Stubb?

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            • sorenhave@mastodon.nuS sorenhave@mastodon.nu

              @Pepijn @jon @europeanspodcast Perhaps Alexander Stubb?

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              @sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                @sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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                @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast Not nearly as visible and of course not 1:1 the same, but I can think of Yanis Varoufakis, as a comparable character.

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                • tshirtman@mas.toT tshirtman@mas.to

                  @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast Not nearly as visible and of course not 1:1 the same, but I can think of Yanis Varoufakis, as a comparable character.

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                  @tshirtman Somewhat, although his ability to deliver burned out very fast. But he did at least get - briefly! - to the top! @sorenhave @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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                  • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                    We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

                    Left-wing politicians who:
                    ✅ Nail social media
                    ✅ Challenge the establishment
                    ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

                    Who stands out in your country?

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                    @europeanspodcast
                    edit: Wait.. Were you explicitly asking for MEPs from the respective countries or politicians in general?

                    German politician Heidi Reichinnek from Die Linke ("The Left") springs to my mind.
                    https://heidi-reichinnek.de/

                    Her social media activity and empassioned speech against far-right encroachment have ensured that her party not only remained in the German parliament during the last election, but also almost doubled their share (5% ↗️ 9%) when everybody expected them to lose.

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                    • B bytesalat@norden.social

                      @europeanspodcast
                      edit: Wait.. Were you explicitly asking for MEPs from the respective countries or politicians in general?

                      German politician Heidi Reichinnek from Die Linke ("The Left") springs to my mind.
                      https://heidi-reichinnek.de/

                      Her social media activity and empassioned speech against far-right encroachment have ensured that her party not only remained in the German parliament during the last election, but also almost doubled their share (5% ↗️ 9%) when everybody expected them to lose.

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                      @bytesalat Politicians in general - can by MEPs but actually was thinking more on the national level.

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        @sorenhave Yes. Stubb is fascinating. He's an interesting insider-outsider, and has never lost his ability to challenge things. @Pepijn @europeanspodcast

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                        @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn Stubb is also a former guest on the Europeans podcast- a left-field Mamdani-style media appearance 😉

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                        • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                          @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn Stubb is also a former guest on the Europeans podcast- a left-field Mamdani-style media appearance 😉

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                          @europeanspodcast @sorenhave @Pepijn This conversation reminds me of when I used to run digital communications training for politicians, and a guy from the Greek PASOK party asked me "but why do we not have an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in our party?" and I had to curtly tell him that such a person would not get anywhere in such a party!

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            @europeanspodcast @sorenhave @Pepijn This conversation reminds me of when I used to run digital communications training for politicians, and a guy from the Greek PASOK party asked me "but why do we not have an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in our party?" and I had to curtly tell him that such a person would not get anywhere in such a party!

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                            @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn I think it has something to do with the proportional representation voting systems in so much of the continent that create such a huge spread of parties. The UK is the most obvious country where AOC/Mamdani/Sanders-esque candidates have emerged, and I think that's partly because of FPTP.

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                            • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                              @jon @sorenhave @Pepijn I think it has something to do with the proportional representation voting systems in so much of the continent that create such a huge spread of parties. The UK is the most obvious country where AOC/Mamdani/Sanders-esque candidates have emerged, and I think that's partly because of FPTP.

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                              @europeanspodcast @sorenhave @Pepijn But it *ought* to be possible in countries with mixed systems that are part constituency. And the UK has parties that drain the life from people really badly as well (I knew Chuka Umunna since he was 21, and what happened to him as a person was grim)

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                              • sanityinc@hachyderm.ioS sanityinc@hachyderm.io

                                @A_denie @europeanspodcast yes, Zack is great

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                                @sanityinc @europeanspodcast oh man, this turned out to be a well-timed toot

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                                • a_denie@toot.ioA a_denie@toot.io

                                  @sanityinc @europeanspodcast oh man, this turned out to be a well-timed toot

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                                  @A_denie @europeanspodcast Oh! Yes!

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                                  • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                                    We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

                                    Left-wing politicians who:
                                    ✅ Nail social media
                                    ✅ Challenge the establishment
                                    ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

                                    Who stands out in your country?

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                                    @europeanspodcast For Germany you might want Heidi Reichinnek

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                                    • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                                      We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

                                      Left-wing politicians who:
                                      ✅ Nail social media
                                      ✅ Challenge the establishment
                                      ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

                                      Who stands out in your country?

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                                      @europeanspodcast great question! @LisaWesterveld and @barbarakathmann come to mind. They are also active here, and both really know how to make effective social media posts.

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                                      • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                                        We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

                                        Left-wing politicians who:
                                        ✅ Nail social media
                                        ✅ Challenge the establishment
                                        ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

                                        Who stands out in your country?

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                                        @europeanspodcast Heidi Reichinnek

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                                        • europeanspodcast@mastodon.socialE europeanspodcast@mastodon.social

                                          We're crowdsourcing: Who is Europe’s answer to Zohran Mamdani?

                                          Left-wing politicians who:
                                          ✅ Nail social media
                                          ✅ Challenge the establishment
                                          ✅ Speak to everyday struggles

                                          Who stands out in your country?

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                                          @europeanspodcast Ferat Koçak of Berlin

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