You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago

[dalias@hachyderm.io]

@Stellar @ocean What alternatives? The sites purporting to be are just scraping and repackaging Google and Bing. They do not have their own indices.

[jackyan@mastodon.social]

@adavid @ocean Any time!

[catswhocode@twoot.site]

@powerpath right, that's one of my favorite ones, or Qwant and Startpage recently. @ocean @aetios

[cable@verse.averagedood.xyz]

@ocean@raru.re Not only google, youtube too, try to search something, and it probably search nosense things or shorts. IDK if another google service are geting worst too...

[kevin999@mastodon.sdf.org]

@ocean Search "ten blue links" and follow the instructions for making your default browser google-web. The udf=14? tag improves results significantly. Check my syntax on that...

[volcano@nerdculture.de]

@ocean use DuckDuckGo.com

[frankcat@mstdn.social]

@ocean I guess we need to skip straight to page 2 of Google search results (but mind the hidden bodies)

[benjohn@todon.nl]

@gsuberland @MisterMaker @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq DDG? … I guess this is one conversation where no one can say “let me google that for you”

[gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aetios @ocean the guy responsible for that is the guy that killed yahoo search

[feloniouspunk@beige.party]

@msbellows @mark @ocean As luck would have it, our internet search player is compatible with both Google and Bing, also a myriad of other “formats” that would not contain AI.

[trisweb@m.trisweb.com]

@ocean

[tbodt@mastodon.social]

@postie @ocean did you find a link to the court documents

[els@sfba.social]

@ocean @pluralistic created a term for this corporate behavior. He calls it “enshittification” and he’d written a lot about it.

[kkarhan@infosec.space]

@ocean also confirmed true...

[trittriton@shelter.moe]

@ocean We already knew, but a reminder is always welcome:
https://www.wheresyoured.at/requiem-for-raghavan/
https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

[dcatoffm@mastodon.social]

@kevin999
@ocean

Unfortunately udm=14 appears to be getting stripped out of URL after search, and I'm getting the local product purchase results.

Google warned a couple months ago it was going to enshitify, I mean, "AI enhance," the web results.. I guess it's here.

&udm=14 Search Hack: Could It Be In Danger Of Breaking?

My popular single-serving site that works around Google’s AI snippets could, unfortunately, see an infusion of AI soon. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Tedium: The Dull Side of the Internet. (tedium.co)

[ochotonidknight@meemu.org]

@jackemled @TerrorBite @aetios @ocean Call me a conspirator.

[alexjusino@mastodon.social]

@ocean that is just evil

[jmccyoung@mstdn.social]

@wonka @ocean @pluralistic And in fact @pluralistic has an excellent series about this at: https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/1353-understood/episode/16142603-introducing-understood-who-broke-the-internet (or what I'm sure will be excellent - I've only listened to the first so far)

[lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@ocean the GDPR really got them spinning. but they would have gotten there eventually anyway.