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You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago

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  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

    @benjohn @MisterMaker @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq I tried it. the results were no better than DDG and then they started doing AI stuff so I stopped using it.

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    @gsuberland @benjohn @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq Oh no that sounds bad.... I am not against AI stuff, you just have to see it as a fancy spelling and grammar check.

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    • mistermaker@fosstodon.orgM mistermaker@fosstodon.org

      @gsuberland @benjohn @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq Oh no that sounds bad.... I am not against AI stuff, you just have to see it as a fancy spelling and grammar check.

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      #146

      @MisterMaker @benjohn @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq yeah, well, I am against it.

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      • publictorsten@mastodon.socialP publictorsten@mastodon.social

        @ocean Source?

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        @ocean Your assumptions are based on incomplete data. I had a look into the documents in question and Google is worried to lose traffic if the search quality decreases.

        https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/press/Google%20Search%20Engine%20Monopoly%20Ruling.pdf

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        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
          Turns out that was on purpose

          pfm@edolas.worldP This user is from outside of this forum
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          @ocean could you please link the source?
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          • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

            You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
            Turns out that was on purpose

            rafinha13@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #149

            @ocean isso é cruel porque destrói o nosso tempo

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            • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

              You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
              Turns out that was on purpose

              cassolotl@eldritch.cafeC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @ocean @ashiel Debunked: https://chaos.social/@gsuberland/114492859575120183

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              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                Turns out that was on purpose

                jackyan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @ocean Sure was, they even wrote it down.

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                Google search is worse by design—internal memo

                You didn’t imagine it: Google’s search is worse, and that’s by design, according to a document produced in discovery.

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                Jack Yan: the Persuader Blog (jackyan.com)

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                • jackyan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @adavid @ocean Here is one. Literally in a Google memo.

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                  Google search is worse by design—internal memo

                  You didn’t imagine it: Google’s search is worse, and that’s by design, according to a document produced in discovery.

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                  Jack Yan: the Persuader Blog (jackyan.com)

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                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                    Turns out that was on purpose

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                    @ocean Nein! Doch! Oh!

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                    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #154

                      @Stellar @ocean What alternatives? The sites purporting to be are just scraping and repackaging Google and Bing. They do not have their own indices.

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                      • jackyan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #155

                        @adavid @ocean Any time!

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                        • powerpath@mastodon.socialP powerpath@mastodon.social

                          @CatsWhoCode @ocean @aetios

                          ddg.co !

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                          @powerpath right, that's one of my favorite ones, or Qwant and Startpage recently. @ocean @aetios

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                          • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                            You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                            Turns out that was on purpose

                            cable@verse.averagedood.xyzC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @ocean@raru.re Not only google, youtube too, try to search something, and it probably search nosense things or shorts. IDK if another google service are geting worst too...

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                            • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                              You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                              Turns out that was on purpose

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                              #158

                              @ocean Search "ten blue links" and follow the instructions for making your default browser google-web. The udf=14? tag improves results significantly. Check my syntax on that...

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                              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                Turns out that was on purpose

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                                @ocean use DuckDuckGo.com

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                                • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                  You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                  Turns out that was on purpose

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                                  @ocean I guess we need to skip straight to page 2 of Google search results (but mind the hidden bodies)

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                                  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                    @benjohn @MisterMaker @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq I tried it. the results were no better than DDG and then they started doing AI stuff so I stopped using it.

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                                    @gsuberland @MisterMaker @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq DDG? … I guess this is one conversation where no one can say “let me google that for you” 😉

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                                    • gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.placeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place
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                                      @aetios @ocean the guy responsible for that is the guy that killed yahoo search

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                                      • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

                                        @mark @ocean Except Betamax was better than VHS, and there's no good reason why we're not all carrying phones by Palm Pilot. The point isn't that Google is the best search service; It's that they've achieved such market dominance that they can still get away with being profitably bad.

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                                        @msbellows @mark @ocean As luck would have it, our internet search player is compatible with both Google and Bing, also a myriad of other “formats” that would not contain AI.

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                                        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                          Turns out that was on purpose

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                                          @ocean 😮

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