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You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago

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  • jackyan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jackyan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jackyan@mastodon.social
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    #152

    @adavid @ocean Here is one. Literally in a Google memo.

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    Google search is worse by design—internal memo

    You didn’t imagine it: Google’s search is worse, and that’s by design, according to a document produced in discovery.

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    Jack Yan: the Persuader Blog (jackyan.com)

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    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
      Turns out that was on purpose

      levampyre@chaos.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
      levampyre@chaos.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
      levampyre@chaos.social
      wrote on last edited by
      #153

      @ocean Nein! Doch! Oh!

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      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
        dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
        dalias@hachyderm.io
        wrote on last edited by
        #154

        @Stellar @ocean What alternatives? The sites purporting to be are just scraping and repackaging Google and Bing. They do not have their own indices.

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        • jackyan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jackyan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jackyan@mastodon.social
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          #155

          @adavid @ocean Any time!

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          • powerpath@mastodon.socialP powerpath@mastodon.social

            @CatsWhoCode @ocean @aetios

            ddg.co !

            catswhocode@twoot.siteC This user is from outside of this forum
            catswhocode@twoot.siteC This user is from outside of this forum
            catswhocode@twoot.site
            wrote on last edited by
            #156

            @powerpath right, that's one of my favorite ones, or Qwant and Startpage recently. @ocean @aetios

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            • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

              You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
              Turns out that was on purpose

              cable@verse.averagedood.xyzC This user is from outside of this forum
              cable@verse.averagedood.xyzC This user is from outside of this forum
              cable@verse.averagedood.xyz
              wrote on last edited by
              #157

              @ocean@raru.re Not only google, youtube too, try to search something, and it probably search nosense things or shorts. IDK if another google service are geting worst too...

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              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                Turns out that was on purpose

                K This user is from outside of this forum
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                kevin999@mastodon.sdf.org
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                #158

                @ocean Search "ten blue links" and follow the instructions for making your default browser google-web. The udf=14? tag improves results significantly. Check my syntax on that...

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                • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                  You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                  Turns out that was on purpose

                  volcano@nerdculture.deV This user is from outside of this forum
                  volcano@nerdculture.deV This user is from outside of this forum
                  volcano@nerdculture.de
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #159

                  @ocean use DuckDuckGo.com

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                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                    Turns out that was on purpose

                    frankcat@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                    frankcat@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                    frankcat@mstdn.social
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #160

                    @ocean I guess we need to skip straight to page 2 of Google search results (but mind the hidden bodies)

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                    • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                      @benjohn @MisterMaker @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq I tried it. the results were no better than DDG and then they started doing AI stuff so I stopped using it.

                      benjohn@todon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      benjohn@todon.nl
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                      #161

                      @gsuberland @MisterMaker @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq DDG? … I guess this is one conversation where no one can say “let me google that for you” 😉

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                      • gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.placeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place
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                        #162

                        @aetios @ocean the guy responsible for that is the guy that killed yahoo search

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                        • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

                          @mark @ocean Except Betamax was better than VHS, and there's no good reason why we're not all carrying phones by Palm Pilot. The point isn't that Google is the best search service; It's that they've achieved such market dominance that they can still get away with being profitably bad.

                          feloniouspunk@beige.partyF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          feloniouspunk@beige.party
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #163

                          @msbellows @mark @ocean As luck would have it, our internet search player is compatible with both Google and Bing, also a myriad of other “formats” that would not contain AI.

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                          • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                            You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                            Turns out that was on purpose

                            trisweb@m.trisweb.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                            trisweb@m.trisweb.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                            trisweb@m.trisweb.com
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                            #164

                            @ocean 😮

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                            • postie@possum.cityP postie@possum.city

                              @ocean@raru.re
                              if anyone else wanted to read the rest of the artaicle, the screenshot is from the following article:
                              https://journalrecord.com/2025/02/20/is-google-making-search-worse-to-sell-more-ads/

                              tbodt@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                              tbodt@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                              tbodt@mastodon.social
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #165

                              @postie @ocean did you find a link to the court documents

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                              • els@sfba.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                els@sfba.social
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                                #166

                                @ocean @pluralistic created a term for this corporate behavior. He calls it “enshittification” and he’d written a lot about it.

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                                • kkarhan@infosec.spaceK kkarhan@infosec.space

                                  @ocean TF2 Heavy Voice "Not big surprise!"

                                  kkarhan@infosec.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  kkarhan@infosec.space
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #167

                                  @ocean also confirmed true...

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                                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                    Turns out that was on purpose

                                    trittriton@shelter.moeT This user is from outside of this forum
                                    trittriton@shelter.moeT This user is from outside of this forum
                                    trittriton@shelter.moe
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #168

                                    @ocean We already knew, but a reminder is always welcome:
                                    https://www.wheresyoured.at/requiem-for-raghavan/
                                    https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

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                                    • K kevin999@mastodon.sdf.org

                                      @ocean Search "ten blue links" and follow the instructions for making your default browser google-web. The udf=14? tag improves results significantly. Check my syntax on that...

                                      dcatoffm@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      dcatoffm@mastodon.social
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                                      #169

                                      @kevin999
                                      @ocean

                                      Unfortunately udm=14 appears to be getting stripped out of URL after search, and I'm getting the local product purchase results.

                                      Google warned a couple months ago it was going to enshitify, I mean, "AI enhance," the web results.. I guess it's here.

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                                      &udm=14 Search Hack: Could It Be In Danger Of Breaking?

                                      My popular single-serving site that works around Google’s AI snippets could, unfortunately, see an infusion of AI soon. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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                                      Tedium: The Dull Side of the Internet. (tedium.co)

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                                      • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                                        @TerrorBite @aetios @ocean I've already found a new one & it has quickly become my favorite. My current conspiracy theory is that everything will be ok.

                                        ochotonidknight@meemu.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
                                        ochotonidknight@meemu.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
                                        ochotonidknight@meemu.org
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                                        #170

                                        @jackemled @TerrorBite @aetios @ocean Call me a conspirator.

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                                        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                          Turns out that was on purpose

                                          alexjusino@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          alexjusino@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          alexjusino@mastodon.social
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                                          #171

                                          @ocean that is just evil

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