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  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

    * enable developer options
    * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
    * restart phone and re-authenticate
    * wait one day doing nothing
    * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
    * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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    #41

    @grote
    > the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

    I look at it this way:

    One market of SoCs that support a single bodged together Linux kernel fork. Two separate but related app ecosystems. The people that are fine with Google Play Android are subsidizing the cost of my hardware.

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    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

      * enable developer options
      * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
      * restart phone and re-authenticate
      * wait one day doing nothing
      * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
      * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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      wrote last edited by
      #42

      @grote@chaos.social ​​

      RE: https://thegayagenda.fans/notes/af12c2c51tnji5km

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      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

        * enable developer options
        * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
        * restart phone and re-authenticate
        * wait one day doing nothing
        * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
        * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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        #43

        @grote

        Get off android and apple. Its time

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        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

          * enable developer options
          * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
          * restart phone and re-authenticate
          * wait one day doing nothing
          * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
          * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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          wrote last edited by
          #44

          @grote Perhaps Windows and MacOS should do this for when you want to sideload Chrome, including corporate machines. Just so Google get depth to the feedback on this process.

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          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

            * enable developer options
            * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
            * restart phone and re-authenticate
            * wait one day doing nothing
            * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
            * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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            wrote last edited by
            #45

            @grote

            Per the screenshot, biometrics are not necessary. The device PIN will also suffice.

            For what it's worth.

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            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

              * enable developer options
              * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
              * restart phone and re-authenticate
              * wait one day doing nothing
              * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
              * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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              wrote last edited by
              #46

              @grote Time for a PinePhone.

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              • old_angry_queer@girlcock.clubO old_angry_queer@girlcock.club

                @terminaltilt yeah, i don't like that. i don't even give my phone my fingerprints in the first place.

                @grote

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                #47

                @old_angry_queer @terminaltilt @grote the screenshot literally says "or device PIN"

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                • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                  @grote what the fuck. none of this is at all acceptable

                  let people install whatever apps they want, without any fearmongering

                  it's supposed to be their device
                  ​​

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                  #48

                  @grote the gall these corporations have to tell me my own device is not mine

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                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                    * enable developer options
                    * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                    * restart phone and re-authenticate
                    * wait one day doing nothing
                    * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                    * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                    #49
                    @grote yeah I silently stopped maintaining my drawing app for android a while back. I was already struggling with path smoothing but google forcing ai shit into their IDE plus them pulling this completely demotivated me 😞
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                    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                      * enable developer options
                      * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                      * restart phone and re-authenticate
                      * wait one day doing nothing
                      * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                      * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #50

                      @grote "someone is guiding me"

                      .. "no one is guiding me" is broad enough it would consider an app developer telling you "this is the bullshit hoops you have to go through now to use our application" .. or following a tutorial on how to enable this .. bruh

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                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                        * enable developer options
                        * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                        * wait one day doing nothing
                        * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                        * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                        #51

                        @grote I've avoided biometrics up to now and intend to keep avoiding them

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                        • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                          @grote

                          Tbh, considering that border agents also sideload their spyware and then wipe it off when you have to hand them your phone unlocked and they vanish with it for a few minutes this is probably a good thing though.

                          Also you've only to go through it once.

                          The only question I have is if they'll allow Apps to query this, if they do then that'll be the bigger issue as then almost all anti-cheat, anti-tamper, and "root detection" frameworks will add it instantly...

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                          #52

                          @agowa338 @grote no because the border agent spyware is "verified" because its from someone whos socially "allowed to" hurt you. and its "for your safety"

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                          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                            * enable developer options
                            * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                            * restart phone and re-authenticate
                            * wait one day doing nothing
                            * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                            * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #53

                            @grote Herding people.

                            I want to use my phone and install in it whatever I want. Google has nothing to say about that.

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                            • oatrapado@mastodon.socialO oatrapado@mastodon.social

                              @grote i want to stop using inoperative systems like android or ios, that's it

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #54

                              @oatrapado @grote Europeans might come to the rescue in the coming years with creations like FairPhone and Jolla Phone. Maybe if the donations start flooding in, Pine64 might be convinced to put more effort into the PinePhone.

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                              • computersaysno@digitalcourage.socialC computersaysno@digitalcourage.social

                                @grote the argument is nice:

                                "57% of surveyed adults experienced a scam in the past year, resulting in a global consumer loss of $442 billion"

                                But the real question then is: How much scam and loss is due to malicious side loaded apps?

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                                #55

                                @computersaysno

                                Does it matter? This is *my* phone. I shouldn't be punished for other people's irresponsible behavior.

                                @grote

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                                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                  * enable developer options
                                  * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                  * wait one day doing nothing
                                  * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                                  * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #56

                                  @grote also: developers that have to be verified by Google anyway!

                                  (The original post is just client side, but Devs also face extra hurdles!)

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                                  • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                                    @agowa338 @grote no because the border agent spyware is "verified" because its from someone whos socially "allowed to" hurt you. and its "for your safety"

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #57

                                    @Li @grote

                                    funnily at the moment it isn't. There have been some leaks as in some instances they "forget" to wipe it after use.

                                    Edit: But yea, they'd probably get it signed through governmental pressure in the end either way...

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                                    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                      * enable developer options
                                      * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                                      * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                      * wait one day doing nothing
                                      * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                                      * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #58

                                      @grote Eyep. This is why I'm not going to be carrying an Android anymore.
                                      If I wanted to be treated like a fucking idiot, I'd call my mother.

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                                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                        * enable developer options
                                        * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                        * wait one day doing nothing
                                        * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                                        * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #59

                                        @grote confirm with biometrics or your device pin

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                                        • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                                          @Li @grote

                                          funnily at the moment it isn't. There have been some leaks as in some instances they "forget" to wipe it after use.

                                          Edit: But yea, they'd probably get it signed through governmental pressure in the end either way...

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                                          #60

                                          @agowa338 @grote it only isnt becuase they dont need it to be 'verified' at the moment, but google will just verify the 'approved malware' like they always have; this shit is meant to "keep you safe" in the same way border agents "keep you safe"

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