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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

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  • navi@catcatnya.comN navi@catcatnya.com

    @grote WAIT ONE DAY??????? WTF

    navi@catcatnya.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #38

    @grote That's WORSE than Apple at this point

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    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

      * enable developer options
      * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
      * restart phone and re-authenticate
      * wait one day doing nothing
      * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
      * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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      #39

      @grote Non "latus onus" sed "installatio" vocatur.

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      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

        * enable developer options
        * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
        * restart phone and re-authenticate
        * wait one day doing nothing
        * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
        * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

        lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #40

        @grote what the fuck. none of this is at all acceptable

        let people install whatever apps they want, without any fearmongering

        it's supposed to be their device
        ​​

        lumi@snug.moeL ryanprior@mastodon.socialR hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH 3 Replies Last reply
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        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

          * enable developer options
          * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
          * restart phone and re-authenticate
          * wait one day doing nothing
          * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
          * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

          progo@boop.cityP This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #41

          @grote
          > the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

          I look at it this way:

          One market of SoCs that support a single bodged together Linux kernel fork. Two separate but related app ecosystems. The people that are fine with Google Play Android are subsidizing the cost of my hardware.

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          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

            * enable developer options
            * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
            * restart phone and re-authenticate
            * wait one day doing nothing
            * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
            * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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            wrote last edited by
            #42

            @grote@chaos.social ​​

            RE: https://thegayagenda.fans/notes/af12c2c51tnji5km

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            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

              * enable developer options
              * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
              * restart phone and re-authenticate
              * wait one day doing nothing
              * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
              * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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              wrote last edited by
              #43

              @grote

              Get off android and apple. Its time

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              • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                * enable developer options
                * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                * restart phone and re-authenticate
                * wait one day doing nothing
                * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                wrote last edited by
                #44

                @grote Perhaps Windows and MacOS should do this for when you want to sideload Chrome, including corporate machines. Just so Google get depth to the feedback on this process.

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                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                  * enable developer options
                  * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                  * wait one day doing nothing
                  * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                  * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                  argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #45

                  @grote

                  Per the screenshot, biometrics are not necessary. The device PIN will also suffice.

                  For what it's worth.

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                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                    * enable developer options
                    * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                    * restart phone and re-authenticate
                    * wait one day doing nothing
                    * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                    * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                    #46

                    @grote Time for a PinePhone.

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                    • old_angry_queer@girlcock.clubO old_angry_queer@girlcock.club

                      @terminaltilt yeah, i don't like that. i don't even give my phone my fingerprints in the first place.

                      @grote

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                      #47

                      @old_angry_queer @terminaltilt @grote the screenshot literally says "or device PIN"

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                      • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                        @grote what the fuck. none of this is at all acceptable

                        let people install whatever apps they want, without any fearmongering

                        it's supposed to be their device
                        ​​

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #48

                        @grote the gall these corporations have to tell me my own device is not mine

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                        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                          * enable developer options
                          * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                          * restart phone and re-authenticate
                          * wait one day doing nothing
                          * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                          * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #49
                          @grote yeah I silently stopped maintaining my drawing app for android a while back. I was already struggling with path smoothing but google forcing ai shit into their IDE plus them pulling this completely demotivated me 😞
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                          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                            * enable developer options
                            * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                            * restart phone and re-authenticate
                            * wait one day doing nothing
                            * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                            * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #50

                            @grote "someone is guiding me"

                            .. "no one is guiding me" is broad enough it would consider an app developer telling you "this is the bullshit hoops you have to go through now to use our application" .. or following a tutorial on how to enable this .. bruh

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                            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                              * enable developer options
                              * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                              * restart phone and re-authenticate
                              * wait one day doing nothing
                              * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                              * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                              #51

                              @grote I've avoided biometrics up to now and intend to keep avoiding them

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                              • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                                @grote

                                Tbh, considering that border agents also sideload their spyware and then wipe it off when you have to hand them your phone unlocked and they vanish with it for a few minutes this is probably a good thing though.

                                Also you've only to go through it once.

                                The only question I have is if they'll allow Apps to query this, if they do then that'll be the bigger issue as then almost all anti-cheat, anti-tamper, and "root detection" frameworks will add it instantly...

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                                #52

                                @agowa338 @grote no because the border agent spyware is "verified" because its from someone whos socially "allowed to" hurt you. and its "for your safety"

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                                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                  * enable developer options
                                  * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                  * wait one day doing nothing
                                  * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                                  * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #53

                                  @grote Herding people.

                                  I want to use my phone and install in it whatever I want. Google has nothing to say about that.

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                                  • oatrapado@mastodon.socialO oatrapado@mastodon.social

                                    @grote i want to stop using inoperative systems like android or ios, that's it

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #54

                                    @oatrapado @grote Europeans might come to the rescue in the coming years with creations like FairPhone and Jolla Phone. Maybe if the donations start flooding in, Pine64 might be convinced to put more effort into the PinePhone.

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                                    • computersaysno@digitalcourage.socialC computersaysno@digitalcourage.social

                                      @grote the argument is nice:

                                      "57% of surveyed adults experienced a scam in the past year, resulting in a global consumer loss of $442 billion"

                                      But the real question then is: How much scam and loss is due to malicious side loaded apps?

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #55

                                      @computersaysno

                                      Does it matter? This is *my* phone. I shouldn't be punished for other people's irresponsible behavior.

                                      @grote

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                                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                        * enable developer options
                                        * confirm prompt that you are not tricked
                                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                        * wait one day doing nothing
                                        * confirm with biometrics or device PIN that you know what you are doing
                                        * enjoy the last the few apps that still have developers that are motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #56

                                        @grote also: developers that have to be verified by Google anyway!

                                        (The original post is just client side, but Devs also face extra hurdles!)

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                                        • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                                          @agowa338 @grote no because the border agent spyware is "verified" because its from someone whos socially "allowed to" hurt you. and its "for your safety"

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #57

                                          @Li @grote

                                          funnily at the moment it isn't. There have been some leaks as in some instances they "forget" to wipe it after use.

                                          Edit: But yea, they'd probably get it signed through governmental pressure in the end either way...

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