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why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

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  • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

    @ivan doesn't matter when the source 403's my IP

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    @jasmine@chaosfem.tw lol what was it?

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    • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

      why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

      it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

      tech bros need to go back to preschool

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      @jasmine Because the pitch-deck calls for growning a trained userbase for when they're out of runway and the VCs make them pivot to selling you for pennies.

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      • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

        ok i solved it

        i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy

        maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager

        bum update

        or maybe i'll just call it πŸ‘

        using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation

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        linux needs to add this to systemd

        systemctl bro-install whatever

        and then it auto-resolves that to https://whatever/install.sh

        it's the perfect solution, the init package manager

        hey isn't that nix

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        • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

          linux needs to add this to systemd

          systemctl bro-install whatever

          and then it auto-resolves that to https://whatever/install.sh

          it's the perfect solution, the init package manager

          hey isn't that nix

          gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jasmine systemd only uses custom formats so. sh is out

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          • arina@girlcock.clubA arina@girlcock.club

            @luc_coder @jasmine I agree that ecosystem fragmentation is a bitch, but I think there are better ways around it.
            Flatpak, Appimage, Homebrew...

            luc_coder@pleroma.envs.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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            @arina
            @jasmine

            Yes. DMG, EXE and Appimage download on webbed site
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            • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

              @jasmine systemd only uses custom formats so. sh is out

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              @gildilinie it's usually bash scripts that won't work with sh though

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              • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                ok i solved it

                i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy

                maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager

                bum update

                or maybe i'll just call it πŸ‘

                using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation

                anyia@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @jasmine somehow it feels like πŸ‘.sh would be even worse πŸ˜‚

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                • anyia@lgbtqia.spaceA anyia@lgbtqia.space

                  @jasmine somehow it feels like πŸ‘.sh would be even worse πŸ˜‚

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                  @anyia no that's peak shell imo

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                    #23

                    @zaire @jasmine @dhfir Is it though? The dangers and side effects are practically the same

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                    • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                      why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

                      it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

                      tech bros need to go back to preschool

                      d1@autistics.lifeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @jasmine the detestable "bash-slammers" - I know the ones!

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                      • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                        why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

                        it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

                        tech bros need to go back to preschool

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                        @jasmine

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