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why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

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  • ivan@possum.cityI ivan@possum.city

    @jasmine@chaosfem.tw

    Tailscale just has a script that automatically chooses where to install it from based on what package managers you have

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    @ivan doesn't matter when the source 403's my IP

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    • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

      @ivan doesn't matter when the source 403's my IP

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      @jasmine@chaosfem.tw lol what was it?

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      • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

        why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

        it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

        tech bros need to go back to preschool

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        @jasmine Because the pitch-deck calls for growning a trained userbase for when they're out of runway and the VCs make them pivot to selling you for pennies.

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        • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

          ok i solved it

          i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy

          maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager

          bum update

          or maybe i'll just call it πŸ‘

          using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation

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          linux needs to add this to systemd

          systemctl bro-install whatever

          and then it auto-resolves that to https://whatever/install.sh

          it's the perfect solution, the init package manager

          hey isn't that nix

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          • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

            linux needs to add this to systemd

            systemctl bro-install whatever

            and then it auto-resolves that to https://whatever/install.sh

            it's the perfect solution, the init package manager

            hey isn't that nix

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            @jasmine systemd only uses custom formats so. sh is out

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            • arina@girlcock.clubA arina@girlcock.club

              @luc_coder @jasmine I agree that ecosystem fragmentation is a bitch, but I think there are better ways around it.
              Flatpak, Appimage, Homebrew...

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              @arina
              @jasmine

              Yes. DMG, EXE and Appimage download on webbed site
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              • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                @jasmine systemd only uses custom formats so. sh is out

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                @gildilinie it's usually bash scripts that won't work with sh though

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                • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                  ok i solved it

                  i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy

                  maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager

                  bum update

                  or maybe i'll just call it πŸ‘

                  using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation

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                  @jasmine somehow it feels like πŸ‘.sh would be even worse πŸ˜‚

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                  • anyia@lgbtqia.spaceA anyia@lgbtqia.space

                    @jasmine somehow it feels like πŸ‘.sh would be even worse πŸ˜‚

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                    @anyia no that's peak shell imo

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                      @zaire @jasmine @dhfir Is it though? The dangers and side effects are practically the same

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                      • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                        why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

                        it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

                        tech bros need to go back to preschool

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                        @jasmine the detestable "bash-slammers" - I know the ones!

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                        • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                          why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

                          it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

                          tech bros need to go back to preschool

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                          @jasmine

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