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why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

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  • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

    or gopher

    ftp anything but this crap

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    #12

    ok i solved it

    i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy

    maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager

    bum update

    or maybe i'll just call it πŸ‘

    using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation

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    • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

      why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

      it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

      tech bros need to go back to preschool

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      @jasmine@chaosfem.tw

      Tailscale just has a script that automatically chooses where to install it from based on what package managers you have

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      • ivan@possum.cityI ivan@possum.city

        @jasmine@chaosfem.tw

        Tailscale just has a script that automatically chooses where to install it from based on what package managers you have

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        #14

        @ivan doesn't matter when the source 403's my IP

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        • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

          @ivan doesn't matter when the source 403's my IP

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          #15

          @jasmine@chaosfem.tw lol what was it?

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          • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

            why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

            it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

            tech bros need to go back to preschool

            marijn@chilemasto.casaM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @jasmine Because the pitch-deck calls for growning a trained userbase for when they're out of runway and the VCs make them pivot to selling you for pennies.

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            • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

              ok i solved it

              i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy

              maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager

              bum update

              or maybe i'll just call it πŸ‘

              using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation

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              #17

              linux needs to add this to systemd

              systemctl bro-install whatever

              and then it auto-resolves that to https://whatever/install.sh

              it's the perfect solution, the init package manager

              hey isn't that nix

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              • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                linux needs to add this to systemd

                systemctl bro-install whatever

                and then it auto-resolves that to https://whatever/install.sh

                it's the perfect solution, the init package manager

                hey isn't that nix

                gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                @jasmine systemd only uses custom formats so. sh is out

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                • arina@girlcock.clubA arina@girlcock.club

                  @luc_coder @jasmine I agree that ecosystem fragmentation is a bitch, but I think there are better ways around it.
                  Flatpak, Appimage, Homebrew...

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                  @arina
                  @jasmine

                  Yes. DMG, EXE and Appimage download on webbed site
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                  • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                    @jasmine systemd only uses custom formats so. sh is out

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                    @gildilinie it's usually bash scripts that won't work with sh though

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                    • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                      ok i solved it

                      i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy

                      maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager

                      bum update

                      or maybe i'll just call it πŸ‘

                      using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation

                      anyia@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @jasmine somehow it feels like πŸ‘.sh would be even worse πŸ˜‚

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                      • anyia@lgbtqia.spaceA anyia@lgbtqia.space

                        @jasmine somehow it feels like πŸ‘.sh would be even worse πŸ˜‚

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                        @anyia no that's peak shell imo

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                          @zaire @jasmine @dhfir Is it though? The dangers and side effects are practically the same

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                          • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                            why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

                            it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

                            tech bros need to go back to preschool

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                            @jasmine the detestable "bash-slammers" - I know the ones!

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                            • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                              why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

                              it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

                              tech bros need to go back to preschool

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                              @jasmine

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