why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!
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@jasmine
I agree but [insert disagreement] no, really! I would love an ideal solution yet the ecosystem is fragmented. Only covers-all solution I think of is npm but no one trusts it. However: when big corp or entities with money does this> zero excuses to publish actual debs,rpm,etc really@luc_coder just put a download on a web page
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why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!
it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg
tech bros need to go back to preschool
@jasmine everyone moved to linux and now they're bringing that windows .exe mindset with them? -
why not just use THE WEB
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@jasmine everyone moved to linux and now they're bringing that windows .exe mindset with them?
@dhfir i have no idea, i miss bsd
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why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!
it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg
tech bros need to go back to preschool
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@jasmine
I agree but [insert disagreement] no, really! I would love an ideal solution yet the ecosystem is fragmented. Only covers-all solution I think of is npm but no one trusts it. However: when big corp or entities with money does this> zero excuses to publish actual debs,rpm,etc really@luc_coder @jasmine I agree that ecosystem fragmentation is a bitch, but I think there are better ways around it.
Flatpak, Appimage, Homebrew... -
or gopher
ftp anything but this crap
ok i solved it
i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy
maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager
bum updateor maybe i'll just call it
using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation
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why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!
it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg
tech bros need to go back to preschool
@jasmine@chaosfem.tw
Tailscale just has a script that automatically chooses where to install it from based on what package managers you have -
@jasmine@chaosfem.tw
Tailscale just has a script that automatically chooses where to install it from based on what package managers you have@ivan doesn't matter when the source 403's my IP
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@ivan doesn't matter when the source 403's my IP
@jasmine@chaosfem.tw lol what was it?
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why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!
it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg
tech bros need to go back to preschool
@jasmine Because the pitch-deck calls for growning a trained userbase for when they're out of runway and the VCs make them pivot to selling you for pennies.
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ok i solved it
i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy
maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager
bum updateor maybe i'll just call it
using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation
linux needs to add this to systemd
systemctl bro-install whatever
and then it auto-resolves that to https://whatever/install.sh
it's the perfect solution, the init package manager
hey isn't that nix
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linux needs to add this to systemd
systemctl bro-install whatever
and then it auto-resolves that to https://whatever/install.sh
it's the perfect solution, the init package manager
hey isn't that nix
@jasmine systemd only uses custom formats so. sh is out
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@luc_coder @jasmine I agree that ecosystem fragmentation is a bitch, but I think there are better ways around it.
Flatpak, Appimage, Homebrew... -
@jasmine systemd only uses custom formats so. sh is out
@gildilinie it's usually bash scripts that won't work with sh though
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ok i solved it
i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy
maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager
bum updateor maybe i'll just call it
using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation
@jasmine somehow it feels like
.sh would be even worse 
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@jasmine somehow it feels like
.sh would be even worse @anyia no that's peak shell imo
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why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!
it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg
tech bros need to go back to preschool
@jasmine the detestable "bash-slammers" - I know the ones!
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why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!
it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg
tech bros need to go back to preschool
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