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why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

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  • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jasmine@chaosfem.tw
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    #1

    why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

    it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

    tech bros need to go back to preschool

    jasmine@chaosfem.twJ luc_coder@pleroma.envs.netL dhfir@suya.placeD burnitdown@beige.partyB ivan@possum.cityI 8 Replies Last reply
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    • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

      why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

      it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

      tech bros need to go back to preschool

      jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
      jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
      jasmine@chaosfem.tw
      wrote last edited by
      #2

      you are using a google bucket with a URL constructed by a weird bash script (not sh, bash), and google 403's my IP addresses

      yes hello tech bro support? where can i find your curl -fsSL https://host/list-mirrors.sh | bash url? because i need to use a mirror for your "automatic update"

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      • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

        you are using a google bucket with a URL constructed by a weird bash script (not sh, bash), and google 403's my IP addresses

        yes hello tech bro support? where can i find your curl -fsSL https://host/list-mirrors.sh | bash url? because i need to use a mirror for your "automatic update"

        jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jasmine@chaosfem.tw
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        #3

        why not just use THE WEB

        jasmine@chaosfem.twJ melissabeartrix@gives.hugz.onlineM 2 Replies Last reply
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        • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

          why not just use THE WEB

          jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jasmine@chaosfem.tw
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          #4

          or gopher

          ftp anything but this crap

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          • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

            why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

            it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

            tech bros need to go back to preschool

            luc_coder@pleroma.envs.netL This user is from outside of this forum
            luc_coder@pleroma.envs.netL This user is from outside of this forum
            luc_coder@pleroma.envs.net
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            #5
            @jasmine
            I agree but [insert disagreement] no, really! I would love an ideal solution yet the ecosystem is fragmented. Only covers-all solution I think of is npm but no one trusts it. However: when big corp or entities with money does this> zero excuses to publish actual debs,rpm,etc really
            jasmine@chaosfem.twJ arina@girlcock.clubA 2 Replies Last reply
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            • luc_coder@pleroma.envs.netL luc_coder@pleroma.envs.net
              @jasmine
              I agree but [insert disagreement] no, really! I would love an ideal solution yet the ecosystem is fragmented. Only covers-all solution I think of is npm but no one trusts it. However: when big corp or entities with money does this> zero excuses to publish actual debs,rpm,etc really
              jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jasmine@chaosfem.tw
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              @luc_coder just put a download on a web page

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              • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

                it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

                tech bros need to go back to preschool

                dhfir@suya.placeD This user is from outside of this forum
                dhfir@suya.placeD This user is from outside of this forum
                dhfir@suya.place
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                #7
                @jasmine everyone moved to linux and now they're bringing that windows .exe mindset with them?
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                • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                  why not just use THE WEB

                  melissabeartrix@gives.hugz.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
                  melissabeartrix@gives.hugz.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
                  melissabeartrix@gives.hugz.online
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                  #8

                  @jasmine

                  Spiders

                  Giggles

                  Hugz & xXx

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                  • dhfir@suya.placeD dhfir@suya.place
                    @jasmine everyone moved to linux and now they're bringing that windows .exe mindset with them?
                    jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @dhfir i have no idea, i miss bsd

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                    • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                      why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

                      it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

                      tech bros need to go back to preschool

                      burnitdown@beige.partyB This user is from outside of this forum
                      burnitdown@beige.partyB This user is from outside of this forum
                      burnitdown@beige.party
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                      #10

                      @jasmine

                      tech bros:

                      : a sensible package manager
                      : the linux equivalent of Dolphin.exe

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                      • luc_coder@pleroma.envs.netL luc_coder@pleroma.envs.net
                        @jasmine
                        I agree but [insert disagreement] no, really! I would love an ideal solution yet the ecosystem is fragmented. Only covers-all solution I think of is npm but no one trusts it. However: when big corp or entities with money does this> zero excuses to publish actual debs,rpm,etc really
                        arina@girlcock.clubA This user is from outside of this forum
                        arina@girlcock.clubA This user is from outside of this forum
                        arina@girlcock.club
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                        #11

                        @luc_coder @jasmine I agree that ecosystem fragmentation is a bitch, but I think there are better ways around it.
                        Flatpak, Appimage, Homebrew...

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                        • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                          or gopher

                          ftp anything but this crap

                          jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          ok i solved it

                          i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy

                          maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager

                          bum update

                          or maybe i'll just call it 🍑

                          using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation

                          jasmine@chaosfem.twJ anyia@lgbtqia.spaceA 2 Replies Last reply
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                          • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                            why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

                            it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

                            tech bros need to go back to preschool

                            ivan@possum.cityI This user is from outside of this forum
                            ivan@possum.cityI This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                            Tailscale just has a script that automatically chooses where to install it from based on what package managers you have

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                            • ivan@possum.cityI ivan@possum.city

                              @jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                              Tailscale just has a script that automatically chooses where to install it from based on what package managers you have

                              jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @ivan doesn't matter when the source 403's my IP

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                              • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                                @ivan doesn't matter when the source 403's my IP

                                ivan@possum.cityI This user is from outside of this forum
                                ivan@possum.cityI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @jasmine@chaosfem.tw lol what was it?

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                                • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                                  why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

                                  it's all just bad shell scripts you're supposed to curl straight into bash and they've tested zero edge cases aarghg

                                  tech bros need to go back to preschool

                                  marijn@chilemasto.casaM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  marijn@chilemasto.casaM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  marijn@chilemasto.casa
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                                  #16

                                  @jasmine Because the pitch-deck calls for growning a trained userbase for when they're out of runway and the VCs make them pivot to selling you for pennies.

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                                  • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                                    ok i solved it

                                    i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy

                                    maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager

                                    bum update

                                    or maybe i'll just call it 🍑

                                    using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation

                                    jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    linux needs to add this to systemd

                                    systemctl bro-install whatever

                                    and then it auto-resolves that to https://whatever/install.sh

                                    it's the perfect solution, the init package manager

                                    hey isn't that nix

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                                    • jasmine@chaosfem.twJ jasmine@chaosfem.tw

                                      linux needs to add this to systemd

                                      systemctl bro-install whatever

                                      and then it auto-resolves that to https://whatever/install.sh

                                      it's the perfect solution, the init package manager

                                      hey isn't that nix

                                      gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
                                      gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @jasmine systemd only uses custom formats so. sh is out

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                                      • arina@girlcock.clubA arina@girlcock.club

                                        @luc_coder @jasmine I agree that ecosystem fragmentation is a bitch, but I think there are better ways around it.
                                        Flatpak, Appimage, Homebrew...

                                        luc_coder@pleroma.envs.netL This user is from outside of this forum
                                        luc_coder@pleroma.envs.netL This user is from outside of this forum
                                        luc_coder@pleroma.envs.net
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                                        @arina
                                        @jasmine

                                        Yes. DMG, EXE and Appimage download on webbed site
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                                        • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                          @jasmine systemd only uses custom formats so. sh is out

                                          jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          jasmine@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @gildilinie it's usually bash scripts that won't work with sh though

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