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As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

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  • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

    @humanhorseshoes Right wing "protect the children" (aka: "control the flow of information and censor anything remotely queer") nonsense is what it feels like to me. It seems to have started in the US.

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    @SylvieLorxu @humanhorseshoes it's mostly Meta and other big tech asshole Companies trying to shift the burden from 'em to everybody else.

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    • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

      @SylvieLorxu @humanhorseshoes it's mostly Meta and other big tech asshole Companies trying to shift the burden from 'em to everybody else.

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      @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu There is nothing the EU loves more that putting an unreasonable and impossible burden on the citizen over a corporation

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      • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

        @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu There is nothing the EU loves more that putting an unreasonable and impossible burden on the citizen over a corporation

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        @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the not elected Leader of the EU, Dr. Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen aka Zensurusla (amalgam of Zensur, German for censorship and Ursula, obviously her first name)

        Is well known for her deep understanding of the subject matter. /s

        https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.misstrauensvotum-zensursula-ursula-von-der-leyen-und-ihr-spitzname.13a2f347-81b1-4db0-84de-57b3366e4951.html <-- in German, if needed use mashine translation

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        • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

          RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

          As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

          If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

          I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

          Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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          @SylvieLorxu @ariadne @nik my trajectory would be wildly different (for the worse) if I couldn't be on LinuxQuestions.org forum forever ago, being a clueless kid exploring linux and learning it all. (and learning some netiquette along the way... something that seems to be absent a lot more these days..)

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          • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

            @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the not elected Leader of the EU, Dr. Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen aka Zensurusla (amalgam of Zensur, German for censorship and Ursula, obviously her first name)

            Is well known for her deep understanding of the subject matter. /s

            https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.misstrauensvotum-zensursula-ursula-von-der-leyen-und-ihr-spitzname.13a2f347-81b1-4db0-84de-57b3366e4951.html <-- in German, if needed use mashine translation

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            @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu

            This looks like illegal geoblocking, I’m in the EU

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            • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

              @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu There is nothing the EU loves more that putting an unreasonable and impossible burden on the citizen over a corporation

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              @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu make that the EPP, ECR, PfE, ESN and Renew groups in the Parlament.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_groups_of_the_European_Parliament <-- for thouse of you not from the EU or not interrested in the Parlament here's a quick table to what is what.

              Sadly S&D, the Social Democrats usually fail to see what's going on but at least they can be woken up by a loud public kick in the ass.

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              • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu

                This looks like illegal geoblocking, I’m in the EU

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                @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the site says it's temporary unreachable but the link works fine here for me so it is in dead illegal geoblocking.

                Feel free to act accordingly.

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                • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                  RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                  As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                  If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                  I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                  Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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                  @SylvieLorxu Same. I wrote my first line of code in Visual Basic around age 8 or 9 under the guidance of my grandfather, then started to fiddle around on my own computers when I was 10 yo. I then continued to learn programming online as a teenager, followed by a full migration to linux.

                  I can't imagine how different my life would have been if I had to wait 10 more years before learning so much about computers.

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                  • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

                    @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the site says it's temporary unreachable but the link works fine here for me so it is in dead illegal geoblocking.

                    Feel free to act accordingly.

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                    @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu ad you're in Germany I am guessing

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                    • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

                      @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the site says it's temporary unreachable but the link works fine here for me so it is in dead illegal geoblocking.

                      Feel free to act accordingly.

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                      @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu It works now

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                      • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

                        @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the site says it's temporary unreachable but the link works fine here for me so it is in dead illegal geoblocking.

                        Feel free to act accordingly.

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                        @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu If she is the answer it was a very stupid question to begin with. She has her analog here in Ireland, Patrick O'Donovan who has been on the same censorship hobby horse for years.

                        I would never call him stupid as that would be an insult to the stupid

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                        • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                          RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                          As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                          If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                          I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                          Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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                          @SylvieLorxu as a teacher I really enjoyed (and in fact used) the interest of my students in programming and encouraged them to do so as best I could. [I have just about no programming skills.] They became quite capable well before 13 years of age.

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                          • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                            @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu If she is the answer it was a very stupid question to begin with. She has her analog here in Ireland, Patrick O'Donovan who has been on the same censorship hobby horse for years.

                            I would never call him stupid as that would be an insult to the stupid

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                            @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu at this point I'm convinced the "conservatism" is a kind of cognitive disorder.

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                            • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                              @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu ad you're in Germany I am guessing

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                              @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu yep Bavaria, Germany

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                              • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                                RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                                As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                                If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                                I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                                Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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                                @SylvieLorxu @s_bergmann The damage we do right now with LLMs and people not beeing able to afford computers and prohibiting the next generation to actually learn will fuck us over so much. Any other country that doesn’t follow those tech Nazis bullshit will take over the world

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                                • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                                  RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                                  As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                                  If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                                  I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                                  Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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                                  @SylvieLorxu Oh no. First, stop kids exploring the offline world (road danger, nasty people). Then stop them exploring the online world (porn, nasty people). What are they supposed to do?

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                                  • lunareclipse@snug.moeL lunareclipse@snug.moe

                                    @SylvieLorxu computer tech as a field is going to run into a decade of missing specialists because of this kind of shit. kids can't participate in software development because of draconian laws. fresh graduates can't get a job because of AI.

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                                    @lunareclipse all of that +seniors are not teaching juniors, but babysitting stochastic parrots instead.

                                    🏴‍☠️Bring back the joy!🏴‍☠️

                                    @SylvieLorxu

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                                      @bunny @SylvieLorxu What will happen when you move country or cross a border? Europe is SHIT at consistent rules.

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                                      • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                                        RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                                        As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                                        If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                                        I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                                        Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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                                        @SylvieLorxu you know who has always sucked? Apple

                                        (god i can't believe i remember this story)

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                                        Apple Cuts Off Under-18 Darwin Developer - Slashdot

                                        Crispyking writes "Finlay Dobbie has been a leading contributor to the Darwin project, most notably helping track down the infamous PPP-hang bug. He's been nominated to become a Darwin contributor (which comes with limited check-in privileges) but when going through the process, Apple found out he'...

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                                        • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                                          RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                                          As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                                          If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                                          I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                                          Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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                                          @SylvieLorxu@chaos.social "The chameleon can change itself to any color the community wants, as long as it's washed out grey."

                                          -- Some mid-level MBA

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