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As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

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  • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

    @humanhorseshoes Right wing "protect the children" (aka: "control the flow of information and censor anything remotely queer") nonsense is what it feels like to me. It seems to have started in the US.

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    @SylvieLorxu We need to limit American access to Europe

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    • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

      @SylvieLorxu We need to limit American access to Europe

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      @SylvieLorxu what will happen is you verify in your home state, then again in the next one you go to, then the next, come back, re register in the next state, re register again over and over and over again.

      Or you could just be non EU and skip all the rules like Americans avoid tax in Europe

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      • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

        RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

        As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

        If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

        I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

        Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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        @SylvieLorxu Damn it. I thought opensuse was a good distro. 🤬

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        • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

          RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

          As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

          If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

          I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

          Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

          sense_t8n@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @SylvieLorxu I agree

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          • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

            RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

            As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

            If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

            I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

            Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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            @SylvieLorxu I started to code when I was 12 and I learned the most from the kind people on my local BBS.

            We had an user meetup in '99. About a decade after I joined.

            The BBS had moved to a message board on a http server by than.

            The owner/operater of the BBS passed away in 2003 and most of the regulars are gone now as well.

            Anyways back at that meetup I was, by far, the youngest person present.

            I had taken my Dad along because he also wanted to meet the people who have been rather influential in my early life in person.

            They all mistook him for me 🤣

            Edit: I should add that my Dad can not code and is still alive and well. Turning 81 next Month.

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            • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

              @humanhorseshoes Right wing "protect the children" (aka: "control the flow of information and censor anything remotely queer") nonsense is what it feels like to me. It seems to have started in the US.

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              @SylvieLorxu @humanhorseshoes it's mostly Meta and other big tech asshole Companies trying to shift the burden from 'em to everybody else.

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              • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

                @SylvieLorxu @humanhorseshoes it's mostly Meta and other big tech asshole Companies trying to shift the burden from 'em to everybody else.

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                @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu There is nothing the EU loves more that putting an unreasonable and impossible burden on the citizen over a corporation

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                • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                  @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu There is nothing the EU loves more that putting an unreasonable and impossible burden on the citizen over a corporation

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                  @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the not elected Leader of the EU, Dr. Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen aka Zensurusla (amalgam of Zensur, German for censorship and Ursula, obviously her first name)

                  Is well known for her deep understanding of the subject matter. /s

                  https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.misstrauensvotum-zensursula-ursula-von-der-leyen-und-ihr-spitzname.13a2f347-81b1-4db0-84de-57b3366e4951.html <-- in German, if needed use mashine translation

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                  • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                    RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                    As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                    If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                    I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                    Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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                    @SylvieLorxu @ariadne @nik my trajectory would be wildly different (for the worse) if I couldn't be on LinuxQuestions.org forum forever ago, being a clueless kid exploring linux and learning it all. (and learning some netiquette along the way... something that seems to be absent a lot more these days..)

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                    • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

                      @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the not elected Leader of the EU, Dr. Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen aka Zensurusla (amalgam of Zensur, German for censorship and Ursula, obviously her first name)

                      Is well known for her deep understanding of the subject matter. /s

                      https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.misstrauensvotum-zensursula-ursula-von-der-leyen-und-ihr-spitzname.13a2f347-81b1-4db0-84de-57b3366e4951.html <-- in German, if needed use mashine translation

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                      @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu

                      This looks like illegal geoblocking, I’m in the EU

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                      • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                        @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu There is nothing the EU loves more that putting an unreasonable and impossible burden on the citizen over a corporation

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                        @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu make that the EPP, ECR, PfE, ESN and Renew groups in the Parlament.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_groups_of_the_European_Parliament <-- for thouse of you not from the EU or not interrested in the Parlament here's a quick table to what is what.

                        Sadly S&D, the Social Democrats usually fail to see what's going on but at least they can be woken up by a loud public kick in the ass.

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                        • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                          @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu

                          This looks like illegal geoblocking, I’m in the EU

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                          @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the site says it's temporary unreachable but the link works fine here for me so it is in dead illegal geoblocking.

                          Feel free to act accordingly.

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                          • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                            RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                            As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                            If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                            I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                            Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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                            @SylvieLorxu Same. I wrote my first line of code in Visual Basic around age 8 or 9 under the guidance of my grandfather, then started to fiddle around on my own computers when I was 10 yo. I then continued to learn programming online as a teenager, followed by a full migration to linux.

                            I can't imagine how different my life would have been if I had to wait 10 more years before learning so much about computers.

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                            • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

                              @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the site says it's temporary unreachable but the link works fine here for me so it is in dead illegal geoblocking.

                              Feel free to act accordingly.

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                              @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu ad you're in Germany I am guessing

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                              • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

                                @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the site says it's temporary unreachable but the link works fine here for me so it is in dead illegal geoblocking.

                                Feel free to act accordingly.

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                                @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu It works now

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                                • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

                                  @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the site says it's temporary unreachable but the link works fine here for me so it is in dead illegal geoblocking.

                                  Feel free to act accordingly.

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                                  @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu If she is the answer it was a very stupid question to begin with. She has her analog here in Ireland, Patrick O'Donovan who has been on the same censorship hobby horse for years.

                                  I would never call him stupid as that would be an insult to the stupid

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                                  • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                                    RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                                    As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                                    If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                                    I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                                    Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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                                    @SylvieLorxu as a teacher I really enjoyed (and in fact used) the interest of my students in programming and encouraged them to do so as best I could. [I have just about no programming skills.] They became quite capable well before 13 years of age.

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                                    • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                                      @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu If she is the answer it was a very stupid question to begin with. She has her analog here in Ireland, Patrick O'Donovan who has been on the same censorship hobby horse for years.

                                      I would never call him stupid as that would be an insult to the stupid

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                                      @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu at this point I'm convinced the "conservatism" is a kind of cognitive disorder.

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                                      • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                                        @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu ad you're in Germany I am guessing

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                                        @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu yep Bavaria, Germany

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                                        • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                                          RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                                          As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                                          If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                                          I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                                          Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

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                                          @SylvieLorxu @s_bergmann The damage we do right now with LLMs and people not beeing able to afford computers and prohibiting the next generation to actually learn will fuck us over so much. Any other country that doesn’t follow those tech Nazis bullshit will take over the world

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