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I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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  • foxboron@chaos.socialF foxboron@chaos.social

    @bodil
    I would steer people towards Fedora instead of Manjaro.

    Mostly because of community and project health.

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    @Foxboron Old list. Edited.

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    • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

      Just for reference, if this has you finally thinking of getting rid of Ubuntu: https://social.treehouse.systems/@bodil/115889714321160414

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      @bodil damn ubuntu's been the only distro that doesn't constantly crash my machine, I've tried multiple fedora versions and nixos and my machine randomly crashes. Last week I tried kubuntu and it's been smooth so far...

      I'll try Aurora next and hope

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      • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

        Just for reference, if this has you finally thinking of getting rid of Ubuntu: https://social.treehouse.systems/@bodil/115889714321160414

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        @bodil Aurora Linux brags on their homepage about enabling "local AI workflows". Not sure how that differs from what Canonical is doing.

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        • cholling@bytes.programming.devC cholling@bytes.programming.dev

          @bodil Aurora Linux brags on their homepage about enabling "local AI workflows". Not sure how that differs from what Canonical is doing.

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          @cholling It's the difference between being able to install Ollama and coming preinstalled with Copilot, I guess.

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          • cholling@bytes.programming.devC cholling@bytes.programming.dev

            @bodil Aurora Linux brags on their homepage about enabling "local AI workflows". Not sure how that differs from what Canonical is doing.

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            @cholling @bodil Just noticed the same. I'm not looking to jump from one pro-AI distro to another >.<

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            • kaliranya@vtuber.houseK kaliranya@vtuber.house

              @cholling @bodil Just noticed the same. I'm not looking to jump from one pro-AI distro to another >.<

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              @kaliranya @cholling At the moment, the only distro with an explicit anti-AI policy is Gentoo.

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              • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                @bodil nooooon pas Linux 🙀 (oui, je sais, le principe de Linux c'est que y a Linux et Linux, mais quand même 🙀)

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                • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                  RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                  I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                  @bodil What do you think is a good replacement for Ubuntu for a relatively unskilled #Linux user? I won’t tolerate #aislop.

                  bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB kernelvoid@mastodon.socialK tekchip@mastodon.socialT oldfartphil@mastodon.socialO zebidijah@mastodon.socialZ 5 Replies Last reply
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                  • crow@cville.onlineC crow@cville.online

                    @bodil What do you think is a good replacement for Ubuntu for a relatively unskilled #Linux user? I won’t tolerate #aislop.

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                    @crow Fedora.

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                    • crow@cville.onlineC crow@cville.online

                      @bodil What do you think is a good replacement for Ubuntu for a relatively unskilled #Linux user? I won’t tolerate #aislop.

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                      @crow @bodil zorin O.S

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                      • kernelvoid@mastodon.socialK kernelvoid@mastodon.social

                        @crow @bodil zorin O.S

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                        @kernelvoid @crow Zorin OS is built on Ubuntu. 🤷‍♀️

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                        • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                          @kernelvoid @crow Zorin OS is built on Ubuntu. 🤷‍♀️

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                          @bodil @crow yes, specifically Ubuntu LTS

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                          • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                            RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                            I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                            @bodil +1

                            Allpoints (@allpoints@mstdn.social)

                            @pluralistic@mamot.fr I recommend two, readily available, though perhaps not inexpensive, commercial items in response. A drone and a can of spray foam insulation. This is where I'm supposed to add that this is a joke. I am explicitly not adding that.

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                            • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                              RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                              I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                              @bodil Dito. After some bad experiences regarding "legacy hardware support", I decided that Ubuntu could not be relied upon.

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                              • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                                @crow Fedora.

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                                @bodil@treehouse.systems @crow@cville.online Fedora is a slop jankfest. The only thing they do good is that they can read the room and not push it to default installations.

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                                • crow@cville.onlineC crow@cville.online

                                  @bodil What do you think is a good replacement for Ubuntu for a relatively unskilled #Linux user? I won’t tolerate #aislop.

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                                  @crow @bodil Fedora, specifically Silverblue (gnome) or Kinoite (kde). They're immutable which means you can't (easily) break the OS and it's versioned so if an update happens to break something it's fairly easy to roll back.

                                  However, if you want to be open to tinkering and learning how your system works regular old Fedora is the way to go.

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                                  • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                                    @bodil@treehouse.systems @crow@cville.online Fedora is a slop jankfest. The only thing they do good is that they can read the room and not push it to default installations.

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                                    @tragivictoria @crow That's precisely the line Ubuntu crossed, and I'm not recommending Arch to novices, so Fedora it is.

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                                    • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                                      RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                                      I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                                      @bodil AI in Linux.WTF????

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                                      • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                                        @kernelvoid @crow Zorin OS is built on Ubuntu. 🤷‍♀️

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                                        @bodil @kernelvoid But would that mean #zorin will end up infected witih #aislop?

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                                        • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                                          RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                                          I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                                          @bodil What does this mean for distros built on Ubuntu like Mint? Will they have AI features too or will that be up to the distro?

                                          I am currently using Mint and I REALLY don't want to use an operating system that is going to start adding AI features. At the very least with Linux I would hope it is easy to disable at least.

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