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I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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  • cholling@bytes.programming.devC cholling@bytes.programming.dev

    @bodil Aurora Linux brags on their homepage about enabling "local AI workflows". Not sure how that differs from what Canonical is doing.

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    @cholling @bodil Just noticed the same. I'm not looking to jump from one pro-AI distro to another >.<

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    • kaliranya@vtuber.houseK kaliranya@vtuber.house

      @cholling @bodil Just noticed the same. I'm not looking to jump from one pro-AI distro to another >.<

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      @kaliranya @cholling At the moment, the only distro with an explicit anti-AI policy is Gentoo.

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      • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

        RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

        I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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        @bodil nooooon pas Linux 🙀 (oui, je sais, le principe de Linux c'est que y a Linux et Linux, mais quand même 🙀)

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        • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

          RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

          I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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          @bodil What do you think is a good replacement for Ubuntu for a relatively unskilled #Linux user? I won’t tolerate #aislop.

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          • crow@cville.onlineC crow@cville.online

            @bodil What do you think is a good replacement for Ubuntu for a relatively unskilled #Linux user? I won’t tolerate #aislop.

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            @crow Fedora.

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            • crow@cville.onlineC crow@cville.online

              @bodil What do you think is a good replacement for Ubuntu for a relatively unskilled #Linux user? I won’t tolerate #aislop.

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              @crow @bodil zorin O.S

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              • kernelvoid@mastodon.socialK kernelvoid@mastodon.social

                @crow @bodil zorin O.S

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                @kernelvoid @crow Zorin OS is built on Ubuntu. 🤷‍♀️

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                • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                  @kernelvoid @crow Zorin OS is built on Ubuntu. 🤷‍♀️

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                  @bodil @crow yes, specifically Ubuntu LTS

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                  • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                    RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                    I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                    @bodil +1

                    Allpoints (@allpoints@mstdn.social)

                    @pluralistic@mamot.fr I recommend two, readily available, though perhaps not inexpensive, commercial items in response. A drone and a can of spray foam insulation. This is where I'm supposed to add that this is a joke. I am explicitly not adding that.

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                    • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                      RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                      I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                      @bodil Dito. After some bad experiences regarding "legacy hardware support", I decided that Ubuntu could not be relied upon.

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                      • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                        @crow Fedora.

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                        @bodil@treehouse.systems @crow@cville.online Fedora is a slop jankfest. The only thing they do good is that they can read the room and not push it to default installations.

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                        • crow@cville.onlineC crow@cville.online

                          @bodil What do you think is a good replacement for Ubuntu for a relatively unskilled #Linux user? I won’t tolerate #aislop.

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                          @crow @bodil Fedora, specifically Silverblue (gnome) or Kinoite (kde). They're immutable which means you can't (easily) break the OS and it's versioned so if an update happens to break something it's fairly easy to roll back.

                          However, if you want to be open to tinkering and learning how your system works regular old Fedora is the way to go.

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                          • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                            @bodil@treehouse.systems @crow@cville.online Fedora is a slop jankfest. The only thing they do good is that they can read the room and not push it to default installations.

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                            @tragivictoria @crow That's precisely the line Ubuntu crossed, and I'm not recommending Arch to novices, so Fedora it is.

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                            • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                              RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                              I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                              @bodil AI in Linux.WTF????

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                              • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                                @kernelvoid @crow Zorin OS is built on Ubuntu. 🤷‍♀️

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                                @bodil @kernelvoid But would that mean #zorin will end up infected witih #aislop?

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                                • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                                  RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                                  I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                                  @bodil What does this mean for distros built on Ubuntu like Mint? Will they have AI features too or will that be up to the distro?

                                  I am currently using Mint and I REALLY don't want to use an operating system that is going to start adding AI features. At the very least with Linux I would hope it is easy to disable at least.

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                                  • crow@cville.onlineC crow@cville.online

                                    @bodil What do you think is a good replacement for Ubuntu for a relatively unskilled #Linux user? I won’t tolerate #aislop.

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                                    @crow @bodil #Debian was the easiest transition for me when I moved away from Ubuntu. Aside from dealing with Debian's old-school installer (depending on the installation method you choose) and having to add a couple of Gnome Shell extensions, you'll hardly notice a difference in day to day use.

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                                    • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                                      RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                                      I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                                      @bodil

                                      to use a simpsons-ism, 'Why now? Why not years ago?'

                                      To be clear, fuck AI and all this stuff, but if you ARE going to weirdly sell out and do shitty things, why wait till the sentiment is FIRMLY against it? Like 2 years ago there was probably a window where people would have been 'okay I guess' as an optional feature.

                                      Now, fortunatley, basically everyone is on team 'HELL NO', so...just seems a baffling choice!

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                                      • vantablack2000@mastodon.gamedev.placeV vantablack2000@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @bodil What does this mean for distros built on Ubuntu like Mint? Will they have AI features too or will that be up to the distro?

                                        I am currently using Mint and I REALLY don't want to use an operating system that is going to start adding AI features. At the very least with Linux I would hope it is easy to disable at least.

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                                        @VANTABlack2000 I wouldn't expect something like Mint, which is already pretty far removed from Ubuntu's default setup, to automatically adopt Ubuntu's worse choices in this case, but I don't know the specifics of what Canonical is planning to ship, so I can't say for sure.

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                                        • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                                          RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                                          I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                                          @bodil this could legitimately be awesome!

                                          .....but it won't. because it's canonical....

                                          if they shipped an optional expanded version, that included small local llm (like 2b or 4b-ish sized) trained only and exclusively help you troubleshoot and script, that would be awesome!
                                          i don't need it to write me a workout routine or draw me a stupid picture, i need it to show me im a fucking idiot who expected 'ip' command to behave the same was as the 'ls' does in terms of syntax

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