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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

    Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
    Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

    Strategic genius.

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    @tante Canonical doing what it does best, adding stuff that noone asked for. Not surprised at all that they're going down the AI route.

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

      Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
      Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

      Strategic genius.

      spdrnl@sigmoid.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @tante Oof! PopOS?

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        @Fragarach gotta ask the Zorin folks. Maybe they'll keep their system clean?

        smilingdemon@mastodon.artS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @tante @Fragarach the saving grace is most of the dedicated "AI" and "agentic" features are going to be Snaps which basically everyone else ignores. So fingers crossed it will be fairly Ubuntu contained.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

          Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
          Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

          Strategic genius.

          casandro@f-ckendehoelle.deC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @tante Well to be honest, with Ubuntu it has been a gradual development for many years now.

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

            Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
            Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

            Strategic genius.

            jcnotwit@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @tante Have the Mint team released a statement about how they're going to handle this? My search-fu is failing me.

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            • spdrnl@sigmoid.socialS spdrnl@sigmoid.social

              @tante Oof! PopOS?

              rstub@digitalcourage.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @spdrnl Same here. Would be interesting to hear from @pop_os_official what their plans are.
              @tante

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              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                Strategic genius.

                grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                @tante Since it seems to be happening all over the place, you kind of have to wonder: Who the hell asked for all this?

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                  Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                  Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                  Strategic genius.

                  stege@rollenspiel.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @tante i wonder if this does also applies for Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu. Because i avoided the main ubuntu already.

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                  • stege@rollenspiel.socialS stege@rollenspiel.social

                    @tante i wonder if this does also applies for Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu. Because i avoided the main ubuntu already.

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                    @Stege probably.

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                    • rstub@digitalcourage.socialR rstub@digitalcourage.social

                      @spdrnl Same here. Would be interesting to hear from @pop_os_official what their plans are.
                      @tante

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                      @rstub @pop_os_official @tante System76 is doing a great job. I'll be looking into getting a laptop of theirs when the time comes.

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                      • grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG grumpydad@infosec.exchange

                        @tante Since it seems to be happening all over the place, you kind of have to wonder: Who the hell asked for all this?

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                        @grumpydad @tante

                        Same folks who asked for nuclear strike resilient data network in the 1970s

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                          Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                          Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                          Strategic genius.

                          lrhodes@merveilles.townL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @tante A recurring pattern I see is of FOSS devs getting drawn into LLMs in limited situations on their own time (Segar: "I've found LLMs to be an excellent learning tool"), and rapidly scaling up integration so that they're soon unavoidable — excuse me: "implicit" — in the projects they maintain.

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                            Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                            Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                            Strategic genius.

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                            @tante oof, same. Guess it's time to move all my data someplace safe and nuke that OS partition. Fucking hell.

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                            • jcnotwit@mastodon.socialJ jcnotwit@mastodon.social

                              @tante Have the Mint team released a statement about how they're going to handle this? My search-fu is failing me.

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                              @jcnotwit no idea but their thoughts behind the Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) all of a sudden seem quite timely:

                              "Its goal is to ensure Linux Mint can continue to deliver the same user experience if Ubuntu was ever to disappear. "

                              @tante

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                              Download LMDE 7 - Linux Mint

                              Linux Mint is an elegant, easy to use, up to date and comfortable desktop operating system.

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                                @iain @tante When they turn to vibecoding, sure. But integrating AI features into a project doesn't decrease workload — it's a new feature that has to be deployed and maintained. That's more work, not less.

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                                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                  RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                                  Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                                  Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                                  Strategic genius.

                                  turre@mementomori.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @tante
                                  I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm mostly surprised it took them this long.

                                  It's like the whole damn IT world decided they're lemmings and suddenly need to jump off that AI cliff.

                                  Hmm. There would probably be quite some positives in that outcome. But this period before they reach the cliff is horrible to everybody.

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                                    @iain @tante It's still more work than if they had just transitioned to vibecoding updates on the existing feature set. Maybe some devs think they can use vibecoding to expand a project while still reducing the commitments that lead to burnout, but that's hype-powered cognitive dissonance.

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                                    • turre@mementomori.socialT turre@mementomori.social

                                      @tante
                                      I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm mostly surprised it took them this long.

                                      It's like the whole damn IT world decided they're lemmings and suddenly need to jump off that AI cliff.

                                      Hmm. There would probably be quite some positives in that outcome. But this period before they reach the cliff is horrible to everybody.

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                                      @Turre @tante

                                      It's like there are no ethical corporate driven Linux distributions in capitalism.

                                      (I've been cringing every time suse posts a generic PR message on their fedi account selling "AI" this or other).

                                      RH is likely taking GNOME down the "AI" chute soon if it hasn't already.

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                                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                        RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                                        Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                                        Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                                        Strategic genius.

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                                        @tante It's one of the main reasons why many opt for Linux Mint Debian Edition, when first introduced to #Linux.

                                        Canonical has a long history of more-than-skirting the unethical divide.

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                                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                          RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                                          Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                                          Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                                          Strategic genius.

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                                          @tante Nice to agree about something... I don't need integrated AI features (or Ubuntu) either.

                                          Stock Debian is good, Rocky (FOSS rebuild of RHEL) is also good with overlapping 10y lifespans.

                                          Just a moment...

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