Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.

[smilingdemon@mastodon.art]

@tante @Fragarach the saving grace is most of the dedicated "AI" and "agentic" features are going to be Snaps which basically everyone else ignores. So fingers crossed it will be fairly Ubuntu contained.

[casandro@f-ckendehoelle.de]

@tante Well to be honest, with Ubuntu it has been a gradual development for many years now.

[jcnotwit@mastodon.social]

@tante Have the Mint team released a statement about how they're going to handle this? My search-fu is failing me.

[rstub@digitalcourage.social]

@spdrnl Same here. Would be interesting to hear from @pop_os_official what their plans are.
@tante

[grumpydad@infosec.exchange]

@tante Since it seems to be happening all over the place, you kind of have to wonder: Who the hell asked for all this?

[stege@rollenspiel.social]

@tante i wonder if this does also applies for Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu. Because i avoided the main ubuntu already.

[tante@tldr.nettime.org]

@Stege probably.

[spdrnl@sigmoid.social]

@rstub @pop_os_official @tante System76 is doing a great job. I'll be looking into getting a laptop of theirs when the time comes.

[n_dimension@infosec.exchange]

@grumpydad @tante

Same folks who asked for nuclear strike resilient data network in the 1970s

[lrhodes@merveilles.town]

@tante A recurring pattern I see is of FOSS devs getting drawn into LLMs in limited situations on their own time (Segar: "I've found LLMs to be an excellent learning tool"), and rapidly scaling up integration so that they're soon unavoidable — excuse me: "implicit" — in the projects they maintain.

[carepackage17@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@tante oof, same. Guess it's time to move all my data someplace safe and nuke that OS partition. Fucking hell.

[fedops@fosstodon.org]

@jcnotwit no idea but their thoughts behind the Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) all of a sudden seem quite timely:

"Its goal is to ensure Linux Mint can continue to deliver the same user experience if Ubuntu was ever to disappear. "

@tante

Download LMDE 7 - Linux Mint

Linux Mint is an elegant, easy to use, up to date and comfortable desktop operating system.

(www.linuxmint.com)

[lrhodes@merveilles.town]

@iain @tante When they turn to vibecoding, sure. But integrating AI features into a project doesn't decrease workload — it's a new feature that has to be deployed and maintained. That's more work, not less.

[turre@mementomori.social]

@tante
I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm mostly surprised it took them this long.

It's like the whole damn IT world decided they're lemmings and suddenly need to jump off that AI cliff.

Hmm. There would probably be quite some positives in that outcome. But this period before they reach the cliff is horrible to everybody.

[lrhodes@merveilles.town]

@iain @tante It's still more work than if they had just transitioned to vibecoding updates on the existing feature set. Maybe some devs think they can use vibecoding to expand a project while still reducing the commitments that lead to burnout, but that's hype-powered cognitive dissonance.

[nihkeys@mastodontti.fi]

@Turre @tante

It's like there are no ethical corporate driven Linux distributions in capitalism.

(I've been cringing every time suse posts a generic PR message on their fedi account selling "AI" this or other).

RH is likely taking GNOME down the "AI" chute soon if it hasn't already.

[cauzation@mastodon.social]

@tante It's one of the main reasons why many opt for Linux Mint Debian Edition, when first introduced to #Linux.

Canonical has a long history of more-than-skirting the unethical divide.

[hopeless@mas.to]

@tante Nice to agree about something... I don't need integrated AI features (or Ubuntu) either.

Stock Debian is good, Rocky (FOSS rebuild of RHEL) is also good with overlapping 10y lifespans.

Just a moment...

(medium.com)

[tante@tldr.nettime.org]

@hopeless redhat/rocky never clicked for me. Have been running Debian on Servers for more than 20 years now so I'll probably go that route

[derivativethoughts@mastodon.social]

@tante Their hiring practices told me the whole project would crash and burn at some point years ago.