US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany.
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@Beggarmidas I think there's quite the difference between isolationism and reducing the number of U.S. troops and bases across the globe. I'd argue that the world, and the average U.S. person, would be far better without U.S. imperialism. Besides that, should the value of the U.S. dollar decrease, it would mean fewer imports and more exports, which would be a good thing.
@kdwarn Eh, with one caveat. The USA did pursue some imperialist practices pre world war one, but we'd largely ended those practices by 1908. (Might have been 1912. Forgive my aging memory) It was more of a 'we did it because everyone was doing it' sort of geopolitical thing. EG the international 'norm' Once we'd decided we were going to encourage/endorse ending of colonialism practices globally we abandoned those overtones at the policy level.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker If you're ever wondering about Trump's motives, just ask yourself "what would Putin do?". But currently Russia can't even beat Ukraine, and they'd be no match for Europe, with or without the U.S. #agent_krasnov
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
That might be THE logistics base to support operations in the mid-East if Al Udeid is all shot to Hell.
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@kdwarn Eh, with one caveat. The USA did pursue some imperialist practices pre world war one, but we'd largely ended those practices by 1908. (Might have been 1912. Forgive my aging memory) It was more of a 'we did it because everyone was doing it' sort of geopolitical thing. EG the international 'norm' Once we'd decided we were going to encourage/endorse ending of colonialism practices globally we abandoned those overtones at the policy level.
@Beggarmidas Central and South America in the 1900s? Various African countries?
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
Only stupid voters can elect and reelect a stupid president.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker Whoa whoa whoa....
You're saying the USA needs allies to help keep them safe?!?!?!eleven?!?!!!?
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker
If it happens gradually it is even good for Europe.
There are a lot if folks, including me, that don't want to be dependent on any other countries outside Europe. So Trump is actually doing us a favor. -
US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
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@dissident @Strandjunker
Remember, Trump serves only himself and Putin.@Guillotine_Jones @dissident @Strandjunker Benjamin Netanyahu enters the chat.
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@baglava @Strandjunker Well it's taken Putin about 4 years to march 250km into Ukraine.
At that rate, we can expect him in Lisbon sometime in 2090.
Do we think he'll still be alive in 64 years?
@JimBliss @baglava @Strandjunker
Could fragile egos like Vladimir and Donald bear the thought that life on Earth would go on after they’re gone? -
US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
Most Americans can't see past next Friday. The Trump regeim sees only the worst in people.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker @pluralistic tRump & his supporters have less intelligence than soap bubbles
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@Strandjunker Oh, don't worry: The Germans don't grasp it either. In the news they had quite a large bullshit bingo why this is bad for Germany (something about economy, maintaining workplaces, other foo).
Shifting the view to "having soldier from someone who might be your enemy tomorrow already in your land" is way to complex to get. They really do believe in dangers to "the economy"....
️@jesterchen @Strandjunker that's why it is such an endeavor to #UnplugTrump for so many Germans.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker In the recent years I am more and more considering the US troops in Europe as an occupying force, not allies
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker 100% agreed. Although, when in fall last year several countries pulled their diplomats from IRN war already was implicated & the possibility openly discussed. Strategically USA pulling military out of GER does have advantages specifically for GER aside from a little financial loss. I'm very much interested though, where they are placed next & what the implications are. What puzzles me is Felon 47 pushing EU to gear up & finding new strength & allies.
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Spoken like someone separated from russia by several other countries and a stormy sea, not having experienced an invasion since the Vikings. russia abso-fucken-lutely remains a credible threat. Every day they kill civilians and occupy a nation that only wanted to be part of Europe.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker withdraw them all and stretch your logistics.line by 3000 miles whilst still fighting in the middle east.
The man is an utter morons with the thinking capacity of a 6 year old
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker That's my opinion, too.
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@Strandjunker Americans just know as little from European countries as Europeans know about States in America.
And about those 5000 troops... He probably send that many to Germany to prepare for the Irak war, making it definitely a non-issue.
('How to have a PR 'war' about nothing, lesson xxx')
@vosje62 @Strandjunker the USa military has been placed in GER in 1945. Since 1985 the numbers of 250 000 troops have been continously fluctuating but generally reduced to currently < 40 000. Pulling 5 000 only has a little financial impact on GER no other impact at all. It is interesting though where these troops are going to.
