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  • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

    US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

    It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

    baglava@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Strandjunker It will clear the way for Putin to march across all of Europe to Lisbon.

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    • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

      US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

      It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

      vosje62@mastodon.nlV This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Strandjunker Americans just know as little from European countries as Europeans know about States in America.

      And about those 5000 troops... He probably send that many to Germany to prepare for the Irak war, making it definitely a non-issue.

      ('How to have a PR 'war' about nothing, lesson xxx')

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      • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

        US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

        It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

        ewos1986@norden.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Strandjunker is it really absurd? I’m not so sure

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        • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

          US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

          It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

          2legged@mastodon.ie2 This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Strandjunker Getting American troops out of Europe is good news. Getting them to leave of their own will is even better.

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          • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

            US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

            It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

            jesterchen@social.tchncs.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Strandjunker Oh, don't worry: The Germans don't grasp it either. In the news they had quite a large bullshit bingo why this is bad for Germany (something about economy, maintaining workplaces, other foo).

            Shifting the view to "having soldier from someone who might be your enemy tomorrow already in your land" is way to complex to get. They really do believe in dangers to "the economy".... 🙄️

            beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB populistensohn@climatejustice.socialP ilka4you@mastodon.socialI 3 Replies Last reply
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            • baglava@mastodon.socialB baglava@mastodon.social

              @Strandjunker It will clear the way for Putin to march across all of Europe to Lisbon.

              walsonde@antifa.styleW This user is from outside of this forum
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              @baglava Why would you think, Putins Marionette would have stopped Putin?

              @Strandjunker

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              • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

                grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                @Strandjunker isn't germany the default spot for the injured to go to

                oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.socialO beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB ilka4you@mastodon.socialI 3 Replies Last reply
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                • 2legged@mastodon.ie2 2legged@mastodon.ie

                  @Strandjunker Getting American troops out of Europe is good news. Getting them to leave of their own will is even better.

                  rupert@mastodon.nzR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @2legged @Strandjunker Any time in the last 35 years would have been good. Right now, not so much.

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                  • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                    US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                    It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

                    alikatze@social.tchncs.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @Strandjunker
                    I'm not sure, but I think it's a bit of both.
                    As far as I recognize, the US army is not Trump and there are many experienced generals who know what is important. The same I know lots of Americans who are reliable integer citizens and not trumpists.
                    I think, it's right to demand a stronger participation by Germany (and the EU) in the NATO.
                    But I also believe that there's a strategical interest for the US to be present in Germany.

                    It's not easy (never been). I'm German and hope we stay with each other.

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                    • baglava@mastodon.socialB baglava@mastodon.social

                      @Strandjunker It will clear the way for Putin to march across all of Europe to Lisbon.

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                      @baglava @Strandjunker Well it's taken Putin about 4 years to march 250km into Ukraine.

                      At that rate, we can expect him in Lisbon sometime in 2090.

                      Do we think he'll still be alive in 64 years?

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                      • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                        US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                        It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                        @Strandjunker Please tell this to our Mr. Merz! He dosen't know for sure!

                        Because many pepple here are scared because of Trumps announcement.

                        For me it's clear to see, like most of Trumps decisions, even this one is weaking US much more than Germany and EU!

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                        • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                          US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                          It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                          @Strandjunker Come to think of it, it'll make Iran even more of a logistical nightmare than it already is.

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                          • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                            US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                            It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

                            geonz@mathstodon.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @Strandjunker Most of his decisions and policies are consistent with bringing down the USA.

                            ethicalprofessor@mstdn.socialE beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB 2 Replies Last reply
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                            • grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange

                              @Strandjunker isn't germany the default spot for the injured to go to

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                              @grumpasaurus @Strandjunker

                              That's right. Many US veterans owe their lives to treatment they received at Ramstein after being wounded in action or accidentally injured in the Mideast or elsewhere. (So I'm told. No firsthand knowledge myself.)

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                              • geonz@mathstodon.xyzG geonz@mathstodon.xyz

                                @Strandjunker Most of his decisions and policies are consistent with bringing down the USA.

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                                @geonz @Strandjunker

                                Most?

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                                • rupert@mastodon.nzR rupert@mastodon.nz

                                  @2legged @Strandjunker Any time in the last 35 years would have been good. Right now, not so much.

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                                  @rupert We will have to disagree about that. Removing the troops helps to detach Europe from the American war machine after 80 years. It's a historic step forward.

                                  @Strandjunker

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                                  • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                                    US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                                    It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

                                    beltliner403@mastodon.onlineB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @Strandjunker
                                    “One A!”
                                    *punches self in the face*
                                    “One A!”
                                    *punches self in the face*
                                    “One A!”
                                    *punches self in the face*

                                    #USPoli #NATO #Superman2025

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                                    • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                                      US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                                      It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                                      @Strandjunker Europe will be a safer place without US forces. The fewer the better.

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                                      • alikatze@social.tchncs.deA alikatze@social.tchncs.de

                                        @Strandjunker
                                        I'm not sure, but I think it's a bit of both.
                                        As far as I recognize, the US army is not Trump and there are many experienced generals who know what is important. The same I know lots of Americans who are reliable integer citizens and not trumpists.
                                        I think, it's right to demand a stronger participation by Germany (and the EU) in the NATO.
                                        But I also believe that there's a strategical interest for the US to be present in Germany.

                                        It's not easy (never been). I'm German and hope we stay with each other.

                                        mu@mastodon.nzM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @alikatze @Strandjunker the US President is the commander in chief of their armed forces. In a way, Trump *is* the US armed forces.

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                                        • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                                          US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                                          It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                                          @Strandjunker Ramstein afb enters chat.

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