US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany.
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@Strandjunker Getting American troops out of Europe is good news. Getting them to leave of their own will is even better.
@2legged @Strandjunker Any time in the last 35 years would have been good. Right now, not so much.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker
I'm not sure, but I think it's a bit of both.
As far as I recognize, the US army is not Trump and there are many experienced generals who know what is important. The same I know lots of Americans who are reliable integer citizens and not trumpists.
I think, it's right to demand a stronger participation by Germany (and the EU) in the NATO.
But I also believe that there's a strategical interest for the US to be present in Germany.It's not easy (never been). I'm German and hope we stay with each other.
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@Strandjunker It will clear the way for Putin to march across all of Europe to Lisbon.
@baglava @Strandjunker Well it's taken Putin about 4 years to march 250km into Ukraine.
At that rate, we can expect him in Lisbon sometime in 2090.
Do we think he'll still be alive in 64 years?
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker Please tell this to our Mr. Merz! He dosen't know for sure!
Because many pepple here are scared because of Trumps announcement.
For me it's clear to see, like most of Trumps decisions, even this one is weaking US much more than Germany and EU!
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker Come to think of it, it'll make Iran even more of a logistical nightmare than it already is.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker Most of his decisions and policies are consistent with bringing down the USA.
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@Strandjunker isn't germany the default spot for the injured to go to
That's right. Many US veterans owe their lives to treatment they received at Ramstein after being wounded in action or accidentally injured in the Mideast or elsewhere. (So I'm told. No firsthand knowledge myself.)
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@Strandjunker Most of his decisions and policies are consistent with bringing down the USA.
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@2legged @Strandjunker Any time in the last 35 years would have been good. Right now, not so much.
@rupert We will have to disagree about that. Removing the troops helps to detach Europe from the American war machine after 80 years. It's a historic step forward.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker Europe will be a safer place without US forces. The fewer the better.
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@Strandjunker
I'm not sure, but I think it's a bit of both.
As far as I recognize, the US army is not Trump and there are many experienced generals who know what is important. The same I know lots of Americans who are reliable integer citizens and not trumpists.
I think, it's right to demand a stronger participation by Germany (and the EU) in the NATO.
But I also believe that there's a strategical interest for the US to be present in Germany.It's not easy (never been). I'm German and hope we stay with each other.
@alikatze @Strandjunker the US President is the commander in chief of their armed forces. In a way, Trump *is* the US armed forces.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker Ramstein afb enters chat.
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@dissident @Strandjunker
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@dissident @Strandjunker
Remember, Trump serves only himself and Putin.@Strandjunker @Guillotine_Jones @dissident not in that order.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker A similar problem may happen with Costa Rica. We're fucked.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker Ethics by proxy: American defense roots at home, lessens afar.
And war should be the LAST ethic.
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US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.
It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.
@Strandjunker well, it may harm US business interests, which is certainly tied strongly to the US state, but it will not hurt US non-ruling-class people.
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@Strandjunker@mstdn.social Personally, I would actually feel a great deal better if the 40,000 troops of this mafia-terror state were to leave our country. That makes it more difficult for the USA to invade us.
@daswarkeinhuhn @Strandjunker you should draft a law that says once the US draws down, that number becomes the maximum allowed for any reasons.
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@2legged @Strandjunker Any time in the last 35 years would have been good. Right now, not so much.
@rupert @2legged @Strandjunker (as an American) why are you so sure our troops would help you? All it would take is one of your citizens criticizing trump and your leader not jailing them. The opposing leader giving him a gold statue of himself and all of a sudden he doesn’t think you should fight at all now.
