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Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

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  • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

    Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

    Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

    ann_effes@berlin.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
    ann_effes@berlin.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
    ann_effes@berlin.social
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    @cammerman

    Hahaha!

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    • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

      Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

      Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

      stumpythemutt@social.linux.pizzaS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cammerman DDT was like that. They used to drive trucks through neighborhoods spraying the stuff and kids would chase it and play in the fog.

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      • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

        Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

        Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

        gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.placeG This user is from outside of this forum
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        gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place
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        #51

        @cammerman I'm glad we learned fron it right then and didn't put asbetos everywhere

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        • lennybacon@infosec.exchangeL lennybacon@infosec.exchange

          @cammerman

          mycotropic@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #52

          @lennybacon @cammerman

          Do they make those with shoulder harness support straps?
          #AskingForAFriend

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          • cynblogger@sfba.socialC cynblogger@sfba.social

            @cammerman
            Thalidomide was a big winner, too.

            mycotropic@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @cynblogger @cammerman

            It works for multiple myeloma;
            https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/thalidomide-oral-route/description/drg-20066301

            Just like Mustard Gas! Works great for multiple myeloma when you use it appropriately*.

            *Not an endorsement for AI

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            • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

              Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

              Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

              synlogic4242@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cammerman also asbestos. and cocaine. and laudenum. and lead

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              • mycotropic@beige.partyM mycotropic@beige.party

                @cynblogger @cammerman

                It works for multiple myeloma;
                https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/thalidomide-oral-route/description/drg-20066301

                Just like Mustard Gas! Works great for multiple myeloma when you use it appropriately*.

                *Not an endorsement for AI

                cynblogger@sfba.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @mycotropic @cammerman
                I know…and for leprosy, too. Doesn’t undo the harm it did before the big “oops!”

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                • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

                  @sillyCoelophysis As I called out the trend of such references, though, it was like putting out bait to attract "well, actually"s. Nobody needs that kind of reply guy.

                  guineu_roja@tech.lgbtG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @ZenHeathen @sillyCoelophysis sorry 😞

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                  • cynblogger@sfba.socialC cynblogger@sfba.social

                    @mycotropic @cammerman
                    I know…and for leprosy, too. Doesn’t undo the harm it did before the big “oops!”

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                    @cynblogger @cammerman

                    I wouldn't call it an "oops", it was a different time when tragic outcomes were how you identified problems with medications unfortunately;

                    "Testing in rodent models failed to establish a median lethal dose and the drug was generally believed to be nontoxic to humans [Lenz, 1988]. In contrast to the extensive testing performed today, in that era formal testing for harmful teratogenic effects was not undertaken. Soon available worldwide, the drug became popular for its anti-emetic effect in pregnant woman suffering with morning sickness. Much of the drug's popularity was due to its wide availability as it was accessible without prescription and also relatively inexpensive."

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                    (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov)

                    But it specifically changed the way the FDA does regulation;

                    "A lasting impact of these tragic events has been in the positive change in the drug regulation process. Problems with animal models and inefficiencies in the pharmaceutical agent approval process were rectified by new legislation which revamped the #FDA regulatory process, expanded patient informed consent procedures and called for more transparency from drug manufacturers. "

                    Of course the current administration wants less regulation everywhere so we can anticipate future problems going forward.
                    #Science #Regulatiin

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                    • mardor@ruhr.socialM mardor@ruhr.social

                      @cammerman At least, they can’t put AI into toothpa… oh, crap!
                      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0020653925035014

                      grodira@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @mardor @cammerman well, that's not LLM

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                      • guineu_roja@tech.lgbtG guineu_roja@tech.lgbt

                        @ZenHeathen @sillyCoelophysis sorry 😞

                        sillycoelophysis@hachyderm.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @guineu_roja I thought the whole discussion was worthwhile and viewed @ZenHeathen's response as a meta-commentary rather than a complaint against you or anyone else. I do not speak for them, of course, so they may clarify as they please.

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                        • 4censord@unfug.social4 4censord@unfug.social

                          RE: https://mstdn.social/@cammerman/116590715512176086

                          @cammerman remeber 50 years ago when asbestos was new and exiting and poorly understood, and companies were putting asbestos into everything?

                          Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

                          homebrewandhacking@mastodon.ieH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @4censord @cammerman

                          1976?

                          That's more yer CFC/DDT era (ozone and bird eggs).

                          A better example might be SUVs aka trucks in a moustache for tax reasons.

                          Although to be fair to those and asbestos, those did actual useful things and had _unintended_ consequences as opposed to being designed to 'solve the problem of paying wages'.

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                          • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

                            Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

                            Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

                            just_tired@mastodon.worldJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @cammerman
                            When dining out, I always ask for my radiation on the side.

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                            • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

                              Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

                              Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

                              maol@c.imM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @cammerman this time it's different 🤡

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                              • lennybacon@infosec.exchangeL lennybacon@infosec.exchange

                                @cammerman

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                                @lennybacon
                                "Nuke Your Nuts!" - the modern spam email campaign, probably 😂
                                @cammerman

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                                • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

                                  Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

                                  Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

                                  6@possum.city6 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @cammerman@mstdn.social remember uh-a-lot-of-years ago when we put lead in and on everything

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                                  • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

                                    Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

                                    Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

                                    ve2uwy@mastodon.radioV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @cammerman

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Gilbert U-238 Atomic Energy Lab (1950-1951)

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                                    Museum of Radiation and Radioactivity (orau.org)

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                                    • 4censord@unfug.social4 4censord@unfug.social

                                      RE: https://mstdn.social/@cammerman/116590715512176086

                                      @cammerman remeber 50 years ago when asbestos was new and exiting and poorly understood, and companies were putting asbestos into everything?

                                      Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

                                      spacekatia@girlcock.clubS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @4censord @cammerman (having been reading about the history of asbestos: that's also more like 100 years ago. the 70s is right around the time we started paying attention to its downsides and began banning its use in some new construction, in some places)

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                                      • 4censord@unfug.social4 4censord@unfug.social

                                        RE: https://mstdn.social/@cammerman/116590715512176086

                                        @cammerman remeber 50 years ago when asbestos was new and exiting and poorly understood, and companies were putting asbestos into everything?

                                        Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

                                        humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @4censord @cammerman Asbestos more like 100 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHobVPsykgo

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                                        • spacekatia@girlcock.clubS spacekatia@girlcock.club

                                          @4censord @cammerman (having been reading about the history of asbestos: that's also more like 100 years ago. the 70s is right around the time we started paying attention to its downsides and began banning its use in some new construction, in some places)

                                          4censord@unfug.social4 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @spacekatia @cammerman tbh i didnt look up the timeline, so I makes sense I got it wrong

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