Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?
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@cammerman
Thalidomide was a big winner, too.It works for multiple myeloma;
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/thalidomide-oral-route/description/drg-20066301Just like Mustard Gas! Works great for multiple myeloma when you use it appropriately*.
*Not an endorsement for AI
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Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?
Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.
@cammerman also asbestos. and cocaine. and laudenum. and lead
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It works for multiple myeloma;
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/thalidomide-oral-route/description/drg-20066301Just like Mustard Gas! Works great for multiple myeloma when you use it appropriately*.
*Not an endorsement for AI
@mycotropic @cammerman
I know…and for leprosy, too. Doesn’t undo the harm it did before the big “oops!” -
@sillyCoelophysis As I called out the trend of such references, though, it was like putting out bait to attract "well, actually"s. Nobody needs that kind of reply guy.
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@mycotropic @cammerman
I know…and for leprosy, too. Doesn’t undo the harm it did before the big “oops!”I wouldn't call it an "oops", it was a different time when tragic outcomes were how you identified problems with medications unfortunately;
"Testing in rodent models failed to establish a median lethal dose and the drug was generally believed to be nontoxic to humans [Lenz, 1988]. In contrast to the extensive testing performed today, in that era formal testing for harmful teratogenic effects was not undertaken. Soon available worldwide, the drug became popular for its anti-emetic effect in pregnant woman suffering with morning sickness. Much of the drug's popularity was due to its wide availability as it was accessible without prescription and also relatively inexpensive."
But it specifically changed the way the FDA does regulation;
"A lasting impact of these tragic events has been in the positive change in the drug regulation process. Problems with animal models and inefficiencies in the pharmaceutical agent approval process were rectified by new legislation which revamped the #FDA regulatory process, expanded patient informed consent procedures and called for more transparency from drug manufacturers. "
Of course the current administration wants less regulation everywhere so we can anticipate future problems going forward.
#Science #Regulatiin -
@cammerman At least, they can’t put AI into toothpa… oh, crap!
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0020653925035014@mardor @cammerman well, that's not LLM
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@guineu_roja I thought the whole discussion was worthwhile and viewed @ZenHeathen's response as a meta-commentary rather than a complaint against you or anyone else. I do not speak for them, of course, so they may clarify as they please.
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RE: https://mstdn.social/@cammerman/116590715512176086
@cammerman remeber 50 years ago when asbestos was new and exiting and poorly understood, and companies were putting asbestos into everything?
Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.
1976?
That's more yer CFC/DDT era (ozone and bird eggs).
A better example might be SUVs aka trucks in a moustache for tax reasons.
Although to be fair to those and asbestos, those did actual useful things and had _unintended_ consequences as opposed to being designed to 'solve the problem of paying wages'.
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Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?
Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.
@cammerman
When dining out, I always ask for my radiation on the side. -
Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?
Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.
@cammerman this time it's different
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@lennybacon
"Nuke Your Nuts!" - the modern spam email campaign, probably
@cammerman -
Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?
Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.
@cammerman@mstdn.social remember uh-a-lot-of-years ago when we put lead in and on everything
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Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?
Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.
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RE: https://mstdn.social/@cammerman/116590715512176086
@cammerman remeber 50 years ago when asbestos was new and exiting and poorly understood, and companies were putting asbestos into everything?
Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.
@4censord @cammerman (having been reading about the history of asbestos: that's also more like 100 years ago. the 70s is right around the time we started paying attention to its downsides and began banning its use in some new construction, in some places)
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RE: https://mstdn.social/@cammerman/116590715512176086
@cammerman remeber 50 years ago when asbestos was new and exiting and poorly understood, and companies were putting asbestos into everything?
Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.
@4censord @cammerman Asbestos more like 100 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHobVPsykgo
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@4censord @cammerman (having been reading about the history of asbestos: that's also more like 100 years ago. the 70s is right around the time we started paying attention to its downsides and began banning its use in some new construction, in some places)
@spacekatia @cammerman tbh i didnt look up the timeline, so I makes sense I got it wrong
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Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?
Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.
@cammerman indeed, those were very... interesting times.
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