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Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

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  • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

    @guineu_roja @datenwolf @cammerman Never should have opened my mouth

    sillycoelophysis@hachyderm.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @ZenHeathen @guineu_roja @datenwolf @cammerman 😂

    I thought you made a good point FWIW

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    • sillycoelophysis@hachyderm.ioS sillycoelophysis@hachyderm.io

      @ZenHeathen @guineu_roja @datenwolf @cammerman 😂

      I thought you made a good point FWIW

      zenheathen@beige.partyZ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @sillyCoelophysis But there are certain fandoms that just aren't worth even accidentally brushing up against.

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      • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

        @sillyCoelophysis But there are certain fandoms that just aren't worth even accidentally brushing up against.

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        @ZenHeathen fair point, but it's kind of the AI jerks that did the brushing up against. You're just admitting to getting the reference.

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        • sillycoelophysis@hachyderm.ioS sillycoelophysis@hachyderm.io

          @ZenHeathen fair point, but it's kind of the AI jerks that did the brushing up against. You're just admitting to getting the reference.

          zenheathen@beige.partyZ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @sillyCoelophysis As I called out the trend of such references, though, it was like putting out bait to attract "well, actually"s. Nobody needs that kind of reply guy.

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          • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

            Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

            Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

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            @cammerman

            ..and before that it was cocaine...

            #cocaine in #CocaCola, cough-syrup, etc...
            Yeah it cures everything....

            Way before that it was fire. Burning solves everything ... #heresy, #eternalDamnation, #witches..

            #humankind is basically a six year old with a hammer.. every new thing is a nail for a minute....

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            • datenwolf@chaos.socialD datenwolf@chaos.social

              @ZenHeathen @cammerman

              Radium is just but one element on the periodic table, all isotopes of which being highly unstable. There's noting evil nor good about it.

              The things the tech bros name their "creations" after are deliberately constructed as such evils.

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              @datenwolf @ZenHeathen @cammerman

              Radon "AI" would be more appropriate because it seeps into f*king everything *especially* where it's unwanted...

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              • kf7ccc@mastodon.radioK kf7ccc@mastodon.radio

                @cammerman https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Radium_Spray_Insect_Killer_(1909)_(ADVERT_423).jpeg

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                @kf7ccc @cammerman Guaranteed to kill all insects and vermin.

                ...well, it will do that, yes.

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                • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

                  Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

                  Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

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                  @cammerman

                  we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

                  THEY will never do the mistake again. The one who died of cancer, I mean.

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                  • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

                    @cammerman Frankly, given their penchant for naming their companies and products after evil lately, I'm quite surprised there isn't a "Radium AI" out there.

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                    @ZenHeathen @cammerman

                    They could call tokens Röntgens.

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                    • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

                      Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

                      Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

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                      @cammerman

                      Hahaha!

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                      • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

                        Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

                        Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

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                        @cammerman DDT was like that. They used to drive trucks through neighborhoods spraying the stuff and kids would chase it and play in the fog.

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                        • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

                          Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

                          Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

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                          @cammerman I'm glad we learned fron it right then and didn't put asbetos everywhere

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                          • lennybacon@infosec.exchangeL lennybacon@infosec.exchange

                            @cammerman

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                            @lennybacon @cammerman

                            Do they make those with shoulder harness support straps?
                            #AskingForAFriend

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                            • cynblogger@sfba.socialC cynblogger@sfba.social

                              @cammerman
                              Thalidomide was a big winner, too.

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                              @cynblogger @cammerman

                              It works for multiple myeloma;
                              https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/thalidomide-oral-route/description/drg-20066301

                              Just like Mustard Gas! Works great for multiple myeloma when you use it appropriately*.

                              *Not an endorsement for AI

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                              • cammerman@mstdn.socialC cammerman@mstdn.social

                                Remember 100 years ago when radiation was new and exciting and poorly understood, and companies were putting radiation into everything?

                                Thankfully we learned our lesson and will never make that mistake again.

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                                @cammerman also asbestos. and cocaine. and laudenum. and lead

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                                • mycotropic@beige.partyM mycotropic@beige.party

                                  @cynblogger @cammerman

                                  It works for multiple myeloma;
                                  https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/thalidomide-oral-route/description/drg-20066301

                                  Just like Mustard Gas! Works great for multiple myeloma when you use it appropriately*.

                                  *Not an endorsement for AI

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                                  @mycotropic @cammerman
                                  I know…and for leprosy, too. Doesn’t undo the harm it did before the big “oops!”

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                                  • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

                                    @sillyCoelophysis As I called out the trend of such references, though, it was like putting out bait to attract "well, actually"s. Nobody needs that kind of reply guy.

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                                    @ZenHeathen @sillyCoelophysis sorry 😞

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                                    • cynblogger@sfba.socialC cynblogger@sfba.social

                                      @mycotropic @cammerman
                                      I know…and for leprosy, too. Doesn’t undo the harm it did before the big “oops!”

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                                      @cynblogger @cammerman

                                      I wouldn't call it an "oops", it was a different time when tragic outcomes were how you identified problems with medications unfortunately;

                                      "Testing in rodent models failed to establish a median lethal dose and the drug was generally believed to be nontoxic to humans [Lenz, 1988]. In contrast to the extensive testing performed today, in that era formal testing for harmful teratogenic effects was not undertaken. Soon available worldwide, the drug became popular for its anti-emetic effect in pregnant woman suffering with morning sickness. Much of the drug's popularity was due to its wide availability as it was accessible without prescription and also relatively inexpensive."

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                                      (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov)

                                      But it specifically changed the way the FDA does regulation;

                                      "A lasting impact of these tragic events has been in the positive change in the drug regulation process. Problems with animal models and inefficiencies in the pharmaceutical agent approval process were rectified by new legislation which revamped the #FDA regulatory process, expanded patient informed consent procedures and called for more transparency from drug manufacturers. "

                                      Of course the current administration wants less regulation everywhere so we can anticipate future problems going forward.
                                      #Science #Regulatiin

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                                      • mardor@ruhr.socialM mardor@ruhr.social

                                        @cammerman At least, they can’t put AI into toothpa… oh, crap!
                                        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0020653925035014

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                                        @mardor @cammerman well, that's not LLM

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                                        • guineu_roja@tech.lgbtG guineu_roja@tech.lgbt

                                          @ZenHeathen @sillyCoelophysis sorry 😞

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                                          @guineu_roja I thought the whole discussion was worthwhile and viewed @ZenHeathen's response as a meta-commentary rather than a complaint against you or anyone else. I do not speak for them, of course, so they may clarify as they please.

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